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    PUBLIC SERVICE OMBUDSMAN WALES CONSULTATION - NEW DRAFT GUIDANCE ON THE CODE OF CONDUCT FOR MEMBERS OF COUNTY AND COMMUNITY / TOWN COUNCILS

    • Meeting of Standards Committee, Monday, 22nd February, 2021 10.30 am (Item 6.)

    To submit the report of the Monitoring Officer  (attached).

    Decision:

    To submit the following observations in response to the consultation, and delegate the right to the Monitoring Officer to collate and convey the response on behalf of the Council:-

     

    ·         That the committee welcomes the document overall, and is of the view that it is readable and very useful in terms of explaining the code.  We also believe that the use of case studies and speech bubbles are a good way of highlighting parts of the document and making it relevant to people.

    ·         It would be useful if the examples of Code of Conduct breaches listed in the document also noted what the outcome had been, in order to give a clearer picture.

    ·         It would be useful if the document included examples of how the public interest test has worked in practice i.e. what types of complaints have passed the threshold, and what types of complaints have failed.

    ·         The document should be gender-neutral.

     

    Minutes:

    Submitted – the Monitoring Officer's report inviting the committee to provide comment and feedback on the Public Services Ombudsman for Wales Consultation on the new draft guidance on the Code of Conduct for Members of County and Town / Community Councils.

     

    It was explained that the consultation had no prescribed questions, attention was drawn to the purpose of the document, and the following matters were suggested for the committee’s consideration:-

     

    ·         Is the guidance provided understandable and of use?

    ·         Are there any aspects which are not as good and could be improved and how?

    ·         Does anything else need to be included?  What?

     

    It was further noted that the Democratic Services Committee had considered the consultation at its meeting held on 18 February, and although it was generally supportive of the guidance in its content and tone, some questions had arisen in relation to the challenge of political expression, and the line between what was appropriate and inappropriate, especially in the respect and use of social media etc.

     

    Reference was made to specific sections of the guidance, namely:-

     

    ·         The two stage test used by the Ombudsman in deciding whether to investigate a complaint, or whether an investigation into a breach of the Code should continue.

     

    ·         The right to political expression, where the Code could intervene, and where it crossed the line. 

    ·         The relevance of the Code to individuals, and the expectation that people holding public office should maintain high standards of conduct.

    ·         The requirement for members who represented the Council on external bodies to comply with the Code of that body, as breaching that body's code could also mean that the member was breaching the Council's code.

    ·         The community leadership role of members, and how sending inappropriate e-mails, or the careless and irresponsible use of social media brought the member's office into disrepute.

    ·         The complex role and status of clerk within a community council.

    ·         The role of the Monitoring Officer in the context of community councils.

     

    During the discussion, the following matters were raised:-

     

    It was noted, although the guidance included examples of breaches of the Code, that there was no reference made to the sanction applied in those cases.

     

    It was suggested that the use of case studies and speech bubbles were a good way of highlighting parts of the document and making them relevant to people.

     

    It was noted that the point regarding a lack of complaints investigated by the Ombudsman was raised annually in the full Council, but it was evident than less than 5% of the Ombudsman's work related to Councils, with the majority of the complaints arising in the field of health. Attention was also drawn to the fact that the Ombudsman had stated clearly in the introduction to the guidance that the number of low-level complaints submitted remained too high, and although it appeared that a very small number of members submitted these complaints, in this challenging period it was even more important that his office was used effectively, and that any investigations undertaken were proportionate and essential for the wider benefit of the public. It was also noted that the Ombudsman encouraged members to take advantage of any local arrangements for dealing with 'member against member' complaints, and a question was asked about the role of the Standards Committee and the Monitoring Officer in this respect. In response, reference was made to the Gwynedd Standard and the Council's internal resolution process for dealing with conflicts between members. It was noted that the Monitoring Officer tended to turn to the internal procedure to resolve matters between members within Gwynedd Council, and that ultimately, through this process, the matter could be escalated to the Standards Committee. Naturally, as this was outside the statutory framework, the Standards Committee's powers were limited. There had been very few occasions in Gwynedd Council where this had been relevant, and the majority of complaints were made by the public against members. Such complaints needed to be referred to the Ombudsman, although evidently, the Monitoring Officer could advise the public. The situation in relation to community councils was more challenging as they did not have the resources or the governance system to resolve problems between members.  Again, where real problems arose, the Monitoring Officer could try to assist community councils to the best of his ability.

     

    It was suggested that there was a perception among community council members that the Standards Committee could resolve conflicts, and that there was scope for the committee to be more aware of complaints so that they could be discussed, and the local resolution process could be used to respond to the problem. 

     

    It was noted that the examples in the guidance explained why the Standards Committee could not take a matter further, and it was suggested that this should be emphasised more explicitly in the committee's annual report to the full Council.  In response, it was explained that the Standards Committee was sometimes viewed as a forum for the resolution of complaints, but that all external complaints, including complaints from community councils, must be referred to the Ombudsman. If there was a desire to offer a different service for community councils, it should be borne in mind that there were approximately 64 community and town councils, and approximately 700-750 community council members in Gwynedd. The resource implications as a result of offering this type of service could be significant, and care was needed not to offer a service that could not be delivered.  However, it might be appropriate to disseminate the message. It was further suggested that the challenge could go beyond the 750 members, as there were former members of community councils that continued to show an interest in the work of those councils, and might possibly refer complaints to the Ombudsman.

     

    It was emphasised that the guidance should be gender-neutral.

     

    RESOLVED to submit the following observations in response to the consultation, and delegate the right to the Monitoring Officer to collate and convey the response on behalf of the Council:-

     

    ·         That the committee welcomes the document overall, and is of the view that it is readable and very useful in terms of explaining the code. It is also believed that the use of case studies and speech bubbles is a good way of highlighting parts of the document and making it relevant to people.

    ·         It would be useful if the examples of Code of Conduct breaches listed in the document also noted what the outcome had been, in order to give a clearer picture.

    ·         It would be useful if the document included examples of how the public interest test has worked in practice i.e. what types of complaints have passed the threshold, and what types of complaints have failed.

    ·         The document should be gender-neutral.

     

     

    Supporting documents:

    • Item 6 - Public Service Ombudsman Wales Consultation, item 6. pdf icon PDF 308 KB
    • Item 6 - Appendix 1, item 6. pdf icon PDF 402 KB
    • Item 6 - Appendix 2, item 6. pdf icon PDF 393 KB