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    Application No. C18/0640/18/LL - The Bull Inn, High Street, Deiniolen

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    Meeting: 17/12/2018 - Planning Committee (Item 5)

    • Webcast for 17/12/2018 - Planning Committee

    5 Application Number C18/0640/18/LL - The Bull Inn, High Street, Deiniolen, Caernarfon pdf icon PDF 124 KB

    Change of use of former public house into holiday accommodation

     

    LOCAL MEMBER: COUNCILLOR ELFED WILLIAMS

     

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    • Plans, item 5 pdf icon PDF 3 MB
    • Webcast for Application Number C18/0640/18/LL - The Bull Inn, High Street, Deiniolen, Caernarfon

    Minutes:

             Change of use of vacant public house into holiday accommodation

     

              Attention was drawn to the additional observations that had been received.

     

              The Members had visited the site.

     

              It was noted that the applicant had submitted an appeal due to a lack of decision.

            

    (a)       The Planning Manager elaborated on the background to the application, reminding members that a decision had been made at the Committee meeting on 26 November to defer the decision in order to conduct a site visit. It was noted that the application was to convert the derelict The Bull Inn public house located on the High Street in Deiniolen into self-serviced holiday accommodation with eight bedrooms. This involved a considerable change to the internal layout of the building but there would not be a significant change to the external appearance.

     

    It was explained that the public house had been closed since 2016 and had been for sale for over a year. Reference was made to policy TWR 2 which supported the development of permanent holiday accommodation by converting existing buildings provided that proposals were of high quality in terms of design, appearance and setting. It was considered that the application was of high quality and was in accordance with policy requirements. 

     

    It was highlighted that the Transportation Unit had not noted any objection to the proposal but an objection was received alleging that there was a lack of local parking spaces. In considering the authorised use of the building as a public house, it was not deemed that this development would be likely to cause substantially worse difficulties than the situation as a public house or flats.

                                                                                                                                                      

    It was explained that in cases like this, the former use of the site needed to be considered, and the likely increase as a result of the new proposal. Here, the previous situation was a public house of a substantial size and a four bedroom home above, centrally located within a village. The proposal increased the number of bedrooms but removed the 'public house' element and it was presumed that there were sufficient opportunities for visitors to park on the streets and in local car parks if they were visiting the site in a vehicle. It was suggested that there would be less 'coming and going' with holiday accommodation and there would be less disturbance.

     

    It was noted that a business plan had been submitted with the application, and that observations of the Council's Tourism Unit had been received which confirmed that there was a demand for good quality self-catering units for groups in the county. It was added that, according to the latest figures, there is 1.75% of self-service holiday accommodation in the ward, which confirmed that there was not an excess of this type of holiday accommodation in the area.

     

    (b)       Exercising his right to speak, the Local Member noted the following main points:

    ·           That there were insufficient parking spaces in this cumulative area

    ·           Many residents already complained about the lack of parking spaces

    ·           20 additional cars  ...  view the full minutes text for item 5


    Meeting: 26/11/2018 - Planning Committee (Item 6)

    6 Application No. C18/0640/18/LL - The Bull Inn, High Street, Deiniolen pdf icon PDF 118 KB

    Change of use of former public house into holiday accomodation.

     

    LOCAL MEMBER:    Councillor Elfed W. Williams

     

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    • Plans, item 6 pdf icon PDF 906 KB

    Minutes:

    Change of use of former public house into holiday accommodation.

     

    (a)     The Planning Manager elaborated on the background of the application, noting that the application had been deferred at the Committee held on 5 November 2018 for officers to consult on the business plan and consider this as part of the assessment.  

     

             It was explained that the application was to convert the derelict The Bull Inn public house in Deiniolen into self-serviced holiday accommodation with eight bedrooms. The development involved a considerable change to the internal layout of the building but there would not be a significant change to the external appearance.

     

             It was noted that the public house had been closed since 2016 and had been for sale for over a year (between July 2016 and October 2017) and advertised at a low price (£75,000). Should the public house business be viable, it was considered that it would be reasonable to expect that new managers for the business would have come forward during that period. It had to be borne in mind that another public house, namely "The Wellington", was within 20m of this building.

     

             It was highlighted that Policy TWR 2 of the JLDP supports the development of permanent holiday accommodation by converting existing buildings provided that proposals are of high quality. It was noted that there was justification to call the development one of high quality.

     

             It was noted that it was believed that the potential to cause detriment to amenities such as noise and disturbance was more likely from the authorised use, such as a public house, than there would be from self-serviced holiday accommodation as proposed here. 

     

             Attention was drawn to the fact that the Transportation Unit had no objection to the proposal. In considering the authorised use of the building as a public house, it was not deemed that this development would be likely to cause substantially worse difficulties than the authorised situation. It was noted that the Transportation Unit stated that public parking was available in car parks and on the street within a reasonable distance to the facility.

     

             Reference was made to the business plan submitted by the applicant that explained that the intention was to convert the public house into high quality accommodation for up to 20 guests and stated that there were no similar facilities for large groups, and of this quality, available locally. Attention was drawn to the additional observations received from the Tourism, Marketing and Customer Care Service together with the Council's Rates Unit.

     

             The development was acceptable in terms of relevant local and national policies for the reasons noted in the report.

     

    (b)     Taking advantage of the right to speak, the applicant’s representative noted the following main points:-

    ·         It was proposed to provide high quality accommodation for groups at a competitive price;

    ·         The proposal complied with the policies in the JLDP;

    ·         The change  ...  view the full minutes text for item 6


    Meeting: 05/11/2018 - Planning Committee (Item 5)

    • Webcast for 05/11/2018 - Planning Committee

    5 Application No. C18/0640/18/LL - The Bull Inn, High Street, Deiniolen pdf icon PDF 115 KB

    Change of use of former public house into holiday accomodation.

     

    LOCAL MEMBER:    Councillor Elfed W. Williams

     

    Link to relevant background documents

    Additional documents:

    • Plans, item 5 pdf icon PDF 906 KB
    • Webcast for Application No. C18/0640/18/LL - The Bull Inn, High Street, Deiniolen

    Minutes:

    Change of use of former public house into holiday accommodation.

     

    (a)     The Planning Manager noted that officers had noticed the need for the applicant to submit a business plan and that the applicant was not at fault in any way. It was noted that a business plan had been received on 2 November. A request was, therefore, made to defer the application in order that the officers could consult on the business plan and consider it as part of the assessment.

     

    RESOLVED to defer the application.