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    YSGOL ABERSOCH

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    Meeting: 08/10/2020 - Education and Economy Scrutiny Committee (Item 7)

    7 CABINET DECISION 15-9-20 - ITEM 5 - YSGOL ABERSOCH pdf icon PDF 121 KB

    To consider the report of the Head of Democratic Services

     

    Additional documents:

    • Appendix 1 - The Education Department's Response, item 7 pdf icon PDF 432 KB
    • Appendix 2 - Cabinet Decision Notice, item 7 pdf icon PDF 10 KB
    • Appendix 3 - Report to Cabinet, item 7 pdf icon PDF 936 KB
    • Appendix 3.1 - Options Appraisal Ysgol Abersoch, item 7 pdf icon PDF 691 KB
    • Appendix 3.2 - Ysgol Abersoch Impact Assessments, item 7 pdf icon PDF 6 MB
    • Appendix 3.3 - Background Paper Ysgol Abersoch, item 7 pdf icon PDF 7 MB
    • Appendix 3.4 - Comments from the Local Member, item 7 pdf icon PDF 488 KB

    Decision:

    That the scrutiny committee remained concerned about the situation and, therefore, refers the matter back to the Cabinet for reconsideration for the following reasons:

     

    ·         Owing to the COVID situation and legal guidelines and the Education Department's policies, it is not possible to hold meetings in the usual manner and it is impossible to hold meetings with some individuals who have a keen interest in the matter. It is also impossible to hold public meetings in the usual manner in the community to discuss and respond to the consultation.

    ·         The Head was off work during this period, and continues to be off work.  As the permanent head knows the school’s situation best, continuing with the process while she remains off work would be unfair to the school and the community.

    ·         Some believe that small schools should not be closed without scrutinising the decision.

     

    Minutes:

    Submitted - the report of the Head of Democracy Service noting that the following decision had been called in for scrutiny in accordance with Section 7.25 of the Council's Constitution:-

     

    Item 5: Ysgol Abersoch, Cabinet meeting 15.9.20

     

    "Permission was granted to hold a statutory consultation, in accordance with the requirements of section 48 of the School Standards and Organisation (Wales) Act 2013, on the proposal to close Ysgol Abersoch on 31 December 2020 and to provide a place for the pupils at Ysgol Sarn Bach from 1 January 2021 onwards."

     

    The Chair explained that a request had been made to call in the decision for scrutiny by Councillors Dewi Roberts, Elwyn Jones and himself, within the necessary requirements and timetable.

     

    It was noted that the reasons for calling in, namely the aspects of the decision that it is considered should be scrutinised, have been noted as follows:

     

    "Owing to the COVID situation and legal guidelines and the Education Department's policies, it is not possible to hold meetings in the usual manner and it is impossible to hold meetings with some people who have a keen interest in the matter.  It is also impossible to hold public meetings in the usual manner.  The Head was off work during the period.  Therefore, continuing with the process under these circumstances was unfair to the school and community.  According to the school's representatives, it has not been registered as a Rural School and we question why this is the case.  Some believe that small schools should not be closed without scrutinising the decision."

     

    The Chair emphasised that it was important for the committee to consider these aspects only.  The committee was not considering the issue of proceeding to close the school, and this would be a matter for the Cabinet.

     

    In order to assist the committee to scrutinise the matter in accordance with the aspects of the decision that it is considered should be scrutinised, the following documents were also presented to the scrutiny committee:-

     

    ·         Appendix 1 - the Education Department's response to the aspects of the decision that it is considered should be scrutinised

    ·         Appendix 2 - Cabinet Decision Notice (Item 5, 15.9.20)

    ·         Appendix 3 - Cabinet Report (Item 5, 15.9.20)

     

    The Cabinet Member set out the context, drawing specific attention to paragraph 3.3 of the Education Department's response which noted, although Ysgol Abersoch had not been designated as a Rural School for the purposes of the Schools Organisation Code 011/2018, that the Department, as good practice, had followed a similar process to the required process and procedures in relation to a Rural School when developing the proposal for further consultation.

     

    The Dwyfor/Meirion Area Education Officer submitted the response of the Education Department, and reiterated some of the details included in the report.  He noted that:-

     

    ·         It was important to note that the consultation process would address the needs of the code in full; however, a slightly different procedure to what was required in the Code was followed, by holding three informal engagement  ...  view the full minutes text for item 7


    Meeting: 15/09/2020 - The Cabinet (Item 5)

    5 YSGOL ABERSOCH pdf icon PDF 936 KB

    Cyflwynwyd gan: Cyng / Cllr. Cemlyn Williams

    Additional documents:

    • Item 5 - Appendix 1 - Options Appraisal Ysgol Abersoch, item 5 pdf icon PDF 691 KB
    • Item 5 - Appendix 2 - Ysgol Abersoch Impact Assessments, item 5 pdf icon PDF 6 MB
    • Item 5 - Appendix 3 - Background Paper Ysgol Abersoch, item 5 pdf icon PDF 7 MB
    • Item 5 - Appendix 4 - Comments from the Local Member, item 5 pdf icon PDF 488 KB

    Decision:

    Permission was granted to undertake a statutory consultation, in accordance with the requirements of section 48 of the School Standards and Organisation (Wales) Act 2013, on the proposal to close Ysgol Abersoch on 31 August 2021 and to provide a place for the pupils at Ysgol Sarn Bach from 1 September 2021 onwards.

    Minutes:

    Submitted by Cllr Cemlyn Williams   

     

    DECISION

     

    Permission was granted to hold a statutory consultation, in accordance with the requirements of section 48 of the School Standards and Organisation (Wales) Act 2013, on the proposal to close Ysgol Abersoch on 31 August 2021 and to provide a place for the pupils at Ysgol Sarn Bach from 1 September 2021 onwards.

     

    DISCUSSION

     

    The report was submitted, emphasising that there was no pleasure in bringing a report of this kind to the Cabinet for discussion. It was noted that the Cabinet's duty to ensure good education and experiences for all children in Gwynedd was at the root of this report.

     

    It was emphasised that, in September 2019, the Cabinet had determined to commence discussions with the school's Governors and stakeholders to consider various options following a reduction in the school's pupil numbers. They were thanked for their contribution to the discussion. Attention was drawn to the Fit for Purpose Education Principles accepted by the Cabinet in December 2018, emphasising the two principles that were in-keeping with the report. It was emphasised that the report was comprehensive and that the department would continue to receive further observations during the statutory period.

     

    The Dwyfor/Meirionnydd Area Education Officer added that the discussion held thus far had been looking at potential options in order to ensure a viable provision for the future. He emphasised that work had been carried out by the stakeholders to set up a Cylch Meithrin and to extend childcare in light of the discussion that had been held. The options discussed with the stakeholders were emphasised, noting that work had been carried out to discuss them. It was noted that the option favoured by the Officers was to close the school and move the pupils to Ysgol Sarn Bach. If the decision was approved today, it was noted that the statutory consultation would commence within the coming weeks. It was emphasised that there had been a delay in the process and, consequently, the department would re-visit  some of the impact assessments.

     

    The Local Member expressed his gratitude for the opportunity to join the meeting today to contribute to the discussion, which was so important to the ward. He also thanked the department for delaying the process as a result of the Headteacher's personal circumstances. It was emphasised that the Governors had circulated information to the Cabinet Members, and the Local Member noted that he had received many letters of support to the School from all parts of the county. He expressed that the pupil numbers had reduced in a short amount of time and unexpectedly, and that the Education Department had moved to discuss the school very quickly following the reduction in numbers. Since the initial discussion, he noted that the numbers had started to increase and he emphasised the good work of the staff, who had  ...  view the full minutes text for item 5

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