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    Application No. C18/0796/11/R3 - Ysgol y Garnedd, Penrhosgarnedd, Bangor

    • Meeting of Planning Committee, Monday, 5th November, 2018 1.00 pm (Item 5.1)

    Demolish existing primary school and erect a new primary school in its place including new access roads, playing fields and ancillary works.

     

    LOCAL MEMBER:    Councillor Elin Walker Jones

     

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    Minutes:

    Demolish the existing primary school and construct a new primary school in its place including new access roads, playing fields and ancillary works.

     

    (a)      The Planning Manager elaborated on the background to this application, stating that his application involved the construction of a new school for 420 pupils to replace the existing building of Ysgol y Garnedd, Penrhosgarnedd, which had capacity for 210 pupils. Some members had visited the site prior to the meeting.

     

    Attention was drawn to the additional observations that had been received.

     

    It was noted, in considering that the proposal derived from the shortage of school places available in Bangor and the need that had been identified by the Education Authority to provide more school places in the Penrhosgrnedd area, it was believed that the scale of this development was appropriate for its location and that developing a school on this site was acceptable in principle.

     

    It was explained that the proposal to demolish and re-construct the existing school did not reach the threshold for submitting a Welsh Language impact assessment. Furthermore, it was explained that Policy PS1 of the Joint Local Development Plan (JLDP) did not require a land use impact assessment for this type of development, because the Plan incorporated several mitigating measures for development through individual policies.

     

    Several objections were received during the consultation process by the residents of Penrhos Avenue, which is intended to be used as an entrance for construction traffic as the site is developed, in which concern about issues such as noise, dust and pollution were mentioned. It was stated that these matters could be overcome and managed in an acceptable manner by securing appropriate work methods through planning conditions and by agreeing on a Construction Methodology Management Statement before commencing the development.

     

    It was noted that the Transportation Unit had no objection to the proposal but it did recommend ensuring that the vehicular access, footpaths and the entire parking provision be completed before the new school opened. It was noted that the plans would assist in promoting alternative modes of transport and that it also corresponded to the objective of the Active Travel Act (Wales) 2013. It was further stated that several conditions were recommended, including road improvements to include appropriate measures to reduce the speed of traffic along Penrhos Road, and a condition to manage the movement of construction traffic at specific times during the day.

     

    It was noted that information had been received that the path from the car park to Penrhos Avenue would be closed during the construction period as would the path along Penrhos Avenue, because of local safety concerns. Furthermore, the path leading around Ysgol Friars playing fields would be opened after the first three months, once the path had been secured and the alternative path would, thus, be connected to the other footpaths. It was noted, once the development has been completed, the pathways would be reopened. It was explained that Public Footpath 25 Bangor Community crossed the site and the planning application included the right to divert the path officially to follow the route of an unofficial footpath which had already been created around the Ysgol Friars playing fields. This unofficial path was owned by the Council and had a tarmacadam surface.

     

    The development was acceptable in terms of relevant local and national policies for the reasons noted in the report.

     

    (b)     It was proposed and seconded to approve the application.

     

              During the ensuing discussion, the following main observations were noted by members:

     

    ·         Should the application be approved, concern regarding the control of conditions. Could the Committee be updated once conditions are released?

    ·         Concern that the proposal would lead to the closure of two other schools and that doubling the number of pupils would have an impact on the Welsh Language, considering that 20% of Ysgol y Garnedd pupils spoke English on the yard. This proposal would not help the Welsh Government's target of one million Welsh speakers;

    ·         That a language impact assessment was vital for schools and attention should be given to the matter;

    ·         Could approving the application affect the future of other schools? Kirsty Williams AM, Cabinet Secretary for Education, supported keeping schools open rather than closures;

    ·         That Ysgol y Garnedd was a Welsh-medium school that needed a new building. Although closing other schools was not a planning matter, schools' re-structure in the Groeslon area had had an impact on the two nearby villages;

    ·         This application was for a new purpose-built building for Ysgol y Garnedd;

    ·         Ysgol y Garnedd had needed a new school for years and Ysgol Babanod Coedmawr was deteriorating and children were already being sent to Ysgol y Garnedd. Welcomed the proposal, noting that there was little land available within the City of Bangor for building a new school. Certain that many people in Bangor were supportive of the proposal;

    ·         Comments made in relation to the impact on the Welsh Language should be passed on to the Education Department.

     

    (ch)      In response to the above observations, the officers noted that:

    ·         The recommended conditions were elementary for such a development. The Committee would not be updated when conditions were released on the planning permission but members could get in touch for an update;

    ·         It was a planning application that was being considered and it was not a requirement to submit a language impact assessment as part of the application. The impact on the Welsh Language would be given attention under the schools organisation procedure, which was a separate process to planning;

    ·         That circulars for the schools organisation procedure stated the need to pay attention to the effect on the language under the schools organisation procedure. The need for a language assessment was not being undermined but this would be addressed and considered in detail under a different procedure;

    ·         The proposal to close the schools in question had already been the subject of a statutory notice and it would be considered by the Cabinet in its meeting on 6 November. The planning procedure and the cabinet procedure were separate and approving this application would not mean that the Cabinet would agree to a statutory notice.

     

    (d)     In accordance with the Procedural Rules, the following vote to approve the application was recorded:

                  

    In favour of the proposal to approve the application (9):  Councillors Stephen Churchman, Elwyn Edwards, Louise Hughes, Anne Lloyd Jones, Berwyn Parry Jones, Huw G. Wyn Jones, Edgar Wyn Owen, Cemlyn Williams and Eirwyn Williams.

     

    Against the proposal to approve the application (5):  Councillors Eric M Jones, Dilwyn Lloyd, Gareth A. Roberts, Gruffydd Williams and Owain Williams.

     

             Abstaining: (0)

     

    RESOLVED - to delegate powers to the Senior Planning Manager to approve the application, subject to receiving favourable observations from the Public Protection Unit and a positive outcome to the process of consulting on the public footpath diversion. The following conditions should also be included:-

     

    1.    Time - (five years)

    2.    In accordance with the plans

    3.    Agree on materials and final colours

    4.    Transport conditions

    5.    Welsh Water Condition

    6.     Submit and agree on a detailed Environmental Construction Method Statement - the Statement will include a Waste Management Plan for the period when the site is being developed.     

    7.    Submit and approve a Detailed Landscaping Plan

    8.    Submit and approve a detailed Ecological Mitigating Plan.

    9.    Must adhere to the Ecological Survey recommendations

    10.  Must strictly adhere to the recommendations of the Trees Report

    11. Before the new school becomes operational a Demolition Plan must be submitted and agreed for the existing school that will include a timetable for the demolition work, restoring the land and landscaping along with a timetable for an additional bat survey that will be completed prior to the demolition work.      

    12.  Working hours restrictions during the construction phase (to be agreed with the Transportation Unit and the Public Protection Service) 

    13.  Any other additional conditions required by the Public Protection Service

    14.  Agree on treatment of the boundaries

    15.  Water and Environment Unit Condition

     

           Notes

    1.    Welsh Water

    2.    Natural Resources Wales

    3.    Highways

    4.    Footpaths Unit

    5.    Water and Environment Unit

    Supporting documents:

    • Ysgol y Garnedd, Penrhosgarnedd, Bangor, item 5.1 pdf icon PDF 161 KB
    • Plans, item 5.1 pdf icon PDF 3 MB