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    Notice of Motion by Councillor Alwyn Gruffydd

    • Meeting of The Council, Thursday, 7th March, 2019 1.00 pm (Item 18.)
    • View the declarations of interest for item 18.

    In accordance with the Notice of Motion received under Section 4.20 of the Constitution, Councillor Alwyn Gruffydd will propose as follows:-

     

    Whilst acknowledging that any decision on the matter is a matter for the Cabinet, that this Council strongly objects to any plan or intention to change the constitution, organisation or staffing of Gwynedd Language Centres, in light of their unmistakable success in teaching Welsh to incomers within a short period of time so that they can integrate easily into the Welsh ethos of our schools.

     

     

     

     

    Minutes:

    (2)     The following notice of motion was submitted by Councillor Alwyn Gruffydd, in accordance with Section 4.20 of the Constitution, and it was seconded:

     

    "Whilst acknowledging that any decision on the matter is a matter for the Cabinet, that this Council strongly objects to any plan or intention to change the constitution, organisation or staffing of Gwynedd Language Centres, in light of their unmistakable success in teaching Welsh to incomers within a short period of time so that they can integrate easily into the Welsh ethos of our schools."

     

    An amendment to the proposal was proposed, as follows:

     

    "Whilst acknowledging and fully condemning the horrendous financial cuts forced on local councils by Welsh Government, specifically the cut to the education improvement grant for Gwynedd, and that any decision on the matter is a matter for the Cabinet, that this Council strongly objects to any plan or intention to change the constitution, organisation or staffing of Gwynedd Language Centres that would have a detrimental impact on their unmistakable ability to teach Welsh to incomers within a short period of time and to integrate easily into the Welsh ethos of our schools. The Council also calls on the Cabinet to establish a robust monitoring procedure - whether changes are made or not - to ensure the best possible results for the learners."

     

    The proposer of the amendment explained that he welcomed the positive observations of the proposer of the original proposal, but that he was of the opinion that the proposal bound the Council to never make any amendments to the constitution, organisation or the staffing of the language centres.  There may be a need to extend the service in future should there be more incomers, or there could be less demand for the service, and the methodology of learning languages was also developing, and would certainly develop even further in future.  Also, there was a need to emphasise the fact that it was Welsh Government, and not this Council, who was cutting the grant.

     

    During the discussion on the amendment, the following observations were submitted by individual members:

     

    ·         That there was a need to lobby Welsh Government for more funding for Councils.

    ·         That the call on the Cabinet to set up a robust monitoring procedure would strengthen the original proposal.

    ·         That the Westminster Government offered free English lessons for immigrants, and that Welsh Government should be called upon to ensure the same provision in Wales for the Welsh language - especially if the vision of ensuring a million Welsh speakers by 2050 was to be realised.  Also, in Gwynedd, children who moved to the county had to embark on a Welsh language course before being able to manage with the school lessons.

    ·         That the Gwynedd Language Centres was a brilliant example of good practice and, rather than cut the service, this Council should use and develop it.

    ·         The Council Cabinet should safeguard this valuable service and call on the Government to invest in the future of the language.

    ·         That the Language Centres took pressure off the teachers at schools by teaching Welsh to the children. 

    ·         Although the amendment was to be welcomed, that it was not without fault either, and that the words 'that would have a detrimental impact on their ability ...' was open to misinterpretation because it could be argued that this thing or the other would have a detrimental impact on the units' ability to fulfil their work.

    ·         That the Language Centres was one of the bridges uniting our communities in Gwynedd, and not only immersing and incorporating, but also developing a sense of belonging to the communities in these children.

    ·         That it appeared that the essence of the plan was to dismiss specialist and experienced teachers, and appoint assistants in the hope that they could achieve the same work to the same standard. The work of assistants was to provide assistance to teachers, and not to replace them. It was important that the work already being undertaken should not be undermined, but that this work should also be placed on firm foundations for the future. 

    ·         That a very clear message should be sent that this crucial service needed to be protected, and to also protect its quality.

    ·         That everyone was in agreement that the Welsh language was central to all Council work, and that the Council's commitment to the Welsh language was unmistakable. 

    ·         That there was a wish to see the language centres improving and strengthening in future, and that the amendment would strengthen the provision.

     

    The Cabinet Member for Education noted:

    ·         That the excellent work happening at the language centres was appreciated, but that there was excellent work taking place at the primary schools as well - specifically in the foundation phase, with children starting without a word of Welsh and ending the foundation phase with total fluency.

    ·         That the Government had been cutting grants, and specifically education grants, for approximately four years or more. There had been a 34% reduction in the Education Improvement Grant in four years, and over the same period, the foundation phase had received a £1.2m cut, and 70 assistants had lost their jobs. 

    ·         That these back door cuts were a disgrace to Welsh Government, who was giving with one hand and taking away with the other and, along with the Council Leader, he had been lobbying strongly and continuously against these cuts.

     

    A vote was taken on the amendment and it carried.

     

    An additional amendment to the amendment was proposed and seconded and this was carried, namely to add the following wording at the end of the amendment:

     

    "However, we declare that downgrading teachers' posts and making them assistant posts would be harmful and therefore detrimental to the units' abilities to teach the Welsh language effectively, and therefore, we ask the Cabinet to ensure that the required resources are available to ensure that this does not happen."

     

    It was noted that it was impossible for the Council to plan its work whilst the grants system existed, and it was emphasised that Councillors, Headteachers and governors should write to the Assembly Members and the Parliamentary Member to condemn the severe cuts to education grants.

     

    A vote was taken on the additional amendment and it was carried.

     

    As the additional amendment was accepted, the Monitoring Officer explained that the original notice had been amended and that a further vote was needed on the wording of the additional amendment, rather than the wording of the original. The majority voted in favour of the motion. 

     

    RESOLVED, acknowledging and fully condemning the horrendous financial cuts forced on local councils by Welsh Government, specifically the cut to the education improvement grant for Gwynedd, and that any decision on the matter is a matter for the Cabinet, that this Council strongly objects to any plan or intention to change the constitution, organisation or staffing of Gwynedd Language Centres that would have a detrimental impact on their unmistakable ability in teaching Welsh to incomers within a short period of time and to integrate easily into the Welsh ethos of our schools. The Council also calls on the Cabinet to establish a robust monitoring procedure - whether changes are made or not - to ensure the best possible results for the learners. However, we declare that downgrading teachers' posts and making them assistant posts would be harmful and therefore detrimental to the units' abilities to teach the Welsh language effectively, and therefore, we ask the Cabinet to ensure that the required resources are available to ensure that this does not happen."