To consider any
questions the appropriate notice for which have been given under Section 4.19
of the Constitution.
Minutes:
(The Cabinet Members'
written responses to the questions had been distributed to the members in
advance).
(1) Question
from Councillor Dylan Fernley
“What steps does this
Council propose to take to promote use of public transport by employees? Should we incentivise bus use and punish car
use for those who live on bus routes.
Surely, paying people to drive a car when there is adequate public
transport is wrong.”
Response from the
Leader, Councillor Dyfrig Siencyn, in the absence of the Cabinet Member for the
Environment)
“We welcome this question, and there is certainly
scope to reduce officer journeys and consider more cost effective and
sustainable transport to travel around our County
As a
first step, we are currently reviewing the public transport network across
Gwynedd and will be highlighting opportunities to travel between Council area
offices.
At the same time the Welsh Government is reviewing
the Trawscymru service with a view to increasing frequency between Aberystwyth
and Bangor. A fast service is planned
between Dolgellau and Bangor at peak times, i.e. the bus will not stop in
villages which will make this more attractive to workers.
The Council and Arriva have been working together
to offer a cheaper ticket for Gwynedd Council staff which encourages employees
to travel by bus in the Bangor, Caernarfon and Bethesda areas where the company
operates.”
Supplementary
Question from Councillor Dylan Fernley
"What are we going to do about this
situation?"
Response from the
Leader, Councillor Dyfrig Siencyn, in the absence of the Cabinet Member for the
Environment)
"Thank
you for challenging us as a Council to examine the matter. It is a valid
question - why can't we devise arrangements that encourage, both workers and
councillors, to use buses instead of cars, and I believe that there is scope
for us to look at this. One significant
problem, of course, as somebody who lives in a very rural area, is that public
transport is often not fit for purpose when trying to reach meetings on time,
etc., and it possible that we should examine our bus timetables and arrange our
meetings to suit those timetables. I believe that there is scope for us to work
on that. But, ultimately, there is a need for significant investment in a
public transport system that is sustainable and carbon-neutral if possible.
This means that significant investment is needed, and I would support
this."
(2) Question from Councillor
Paul Rowlinson
“It is now five years
since the Council passed the motion below (09.10.2014):
“Following the latest
attacks by the Israeli State on the territory of the Palestinians living in the
Gaza Strip, this Council calls for a trade embargo with Israel and condemns the
over-reaction and savageness used.
Furthermore, we confirm
and underline this Council’s decision to stop investing in Israel or in that
country’s establishments.
We believe that if
Gwynedd leads the way there is hope that other councils in Wales and beyond
will follow our example.”
During the discussion:-
• The proposal was
supported and the member was congratulated for bringing the matter before the
Council.
• It was noted that it
was important that Gwynedd Council looked out on the world and that it tried to
influence to the best of its ability on a situation like this.
• It was emphasised that
it must be made clear that the proposal condemned the Israeli State and not the
Jewish religion."
Can the Leader update us
on how the Council has implemented the motion?
For instance, had the Council consequently negotiated or rejected any
investments or trade; had the Council avoided investing or trading with
companies that operated in Israel; had any legal matters or any other
difficulties arisen in relation to the implementation of this policy; and had
the Council ensured that all its contractors implemented the policy?"
Response from the
Leader, Councillor Dyfrig Siencyn
"Some
of us will remember this motion, and the outcome. The Council has not invested in funds in
Israel as they did not meet the financial criteria set out in the Investment
Strategy adopted by the Council.
Following
the passing of this motion in 2014, its legality was challenged by the Jewish
Human Rights Watch in the High Court. Similar legal challenges were brought
against Swansea and Leicester Councils. The Court determined in favour of the
Council on the basis that the motion had not had affected our investment
decisions. Despite this, the law is clear that the Council is not permitted to
award or terminate a contract on the basis of the National or territorial
origin of the contractor, the supply or service.
To summarise, therefore, in response to the
question, we are acting in accordance with the decision, but, in so doing, we
must be vigilant that we do not do anything that is illegal.”
Supplementary
question from Councillor Paul Rowlinson
"Are you aware of any other councils which
have followed our example, and, if so, which ones?"
Response by the
Leader, Councillor Dyfrig Siencyn
"Evidently,
we are aware of Swansea Council and Leicester Council, as they were part of the
same hearing as us in that judicial review. We are also aware that public
bodies in London, East Sussex, Canterbury, Winchester, Bristol, Sheffield,
Edinburgh and Dublin City Council have called for a trade embargo with Israel,
and that a number of councils in countries across Europe have acted in a
similar manner.
(3) Question from Councillor
Aeron Jones
“How
does the Cabinet Member responsible for children and young people foresee the
Social Services Department coping with the challenges facing our children and
young people in the future due to the uncertainty happening across Wales and
Britain currently?”
Response from the
Cabinet Member for Children and Families, Councillor Dilwyn Morgan
"A very open-ended question. I could keep you here for several hours
praising the work of the Children's Service, etc., but I wish to take advantage
of the opportunity to update you and highlight some matters that currently pose
a challenge to us in the service. If I
had more time, I would update you on what is happening in the Children's
Service, and the message I wish to convey is that I would appreciate and
welcome any enquiries from members about the Children's Service because,
ultimately, it is a responsibility that lies with us all, as we are all
corporate parents. Therefore, I hope that this message is clearly conveyed to
you.
However,
I will move on, and take the opportunity before my formal answer, to list some
of the challenges that currently face us. I am certain that you are all aware
of the overall increase in demand for the department's services, and there is
an almost daily increase in the number of looked after children. The lack of suitable foster and residential
placements for children and young people who need to be placed away from their
family home leads to an increase in unmanaged placements, which are placements
that we have to find at the last minute for children to ensure their
safety. One example I can give you is
the service having to make over 130 telephone calls to try to find
accommodation for one young girl; nobody was willing to accept her, and she had
to be accommodated over the weekend in a house with our staff. Therefore, here
is another challenge that faces us. The increase in the complexity of cases,
with a number of children coming to our attention late in the day, i.e. they
are not on our radar, and suddenly, something happens within the family and
these children come under our care. Therefore, this is a significant
challenge. Another challenge is that
other agencies shy away from their responsibilities because of a lack of
resources at this time of austerity. Therefore, this is an additional challenge
facing the Children's Service. Another challenge that we are currently facing,
which is timely for me to report on, is the challenge and expectation set by
Welsh Government to reduce the numbers of looked after children and young
people, with a focus on local authorities. We all agree that we need to move
towards a reduction, but the Government is currently trying to insist upon
setting a target for us, a specific figure for the reduction in the number of
children each year. We are one of the
five councils in Wales that have currently rejected this as we feel that it places
our children in a position that we wish to avoid, and it also places additional
pressure on our staff. Therefore, this is another of our current challenges.
There are increasing demands on our social workers during care cases. Courts
set timetables upon them, which creates significant difficulties in relation to
assessing children and individuals. For
the first time in over a decade we are starting to see the side effects due to
a failure to appoint staff to posts.
This is an increasing concern to use and, naturally, we are trying to do
something to address this challenge.
The
Children and Supporting Families Service have responded to new challenges, for
example Child Sexual Exploitation, Child Criminal Exploitation, Harmful and
problematic sexual behaviour through working closely with our partners to
develop practice that increases staff members’ skills to deal with these
complex areas of work. We are part of a
regional and national network that contribute to new developments and we lead
on many aspects of service delivery, for example, safeguarding. We have foreseen that we need to develop
specific services for some of these challenging areas, and we have plans in
place. For example, to develop a multi-agency team to work within harmful
sexual behaviour, and we are currently running a pilot programme for the region
in relation to developing effective child protection practice. The service is
confident that they identify needs and challenges effectively and are ambitious
to develop new plans to meet and respond to those challenges. Gwynedd
Children’s Services have been successful in maintaining a stable workforce for
a number of years, and professional staff are staying within the service,
developing experience and confidence in their daily work. We offer opportunities for staff to develop
in the area of work and invest in professional training and development. The staff in the service are experienced on
every level of leadership – as noted in the Care Inspectorate Wales report
following an inspection of Gwynedd Children’s Services in August 2018 – we
saw that Gwynedd Children’s Services have significant strengths, and they have
a committed and stable workforce who are responding to an increasing workload
in relation to complexities and volume. …Staff showed commitment to ensuring
the best outcomes for children and their families.’
Supplementary
question from Councillor Aeron Jones
"Is the Cabinet Member able to confirm that
there are no more families currently suffering from this Council's maladministration
as happened to Mr and Mrs A as they are defined in a recent Ombudsman's report,
as their child is now an adult and it is now too late for them to receive the
assistance that was needed at that time? Apparently, we have experts here on
autism, who failed to provide what Mr and Mrs A's child needed."
Response from the
Cabinet Member for Children and Families, Councillor Dilwyn Morgan
"We
do not, and have never, claimed that we are perfect. Our workers deal with difficult situations
that face families. They deal with children who are at risk. They deal with families who are at crisis
point, and as I said, we do not claim to be perfect. But as the Cabinet Member
for the service, and as Chair of the Safeguarding Strategic Panel and the
Corporate Parenting Panel, I am totally confident that we have processes in
place to examine cases such as this, and, more importantly, that we can learn
from any such cases that have arisen. I
believe that this element of learning is very important. Therefore, I wish to
confirm that the safety and development of the children and young people of
Gwynedd is a priority for us at all times, and that the voice of the child is a
central part of this. In relation to
commenting on the Ombudsman's report, it would be inappropriate for me to
comment at the moment as there is more than one Ombudsman's case, and I am not
certain to which one the member is referring."
(4) Question from Councillor
Sion Jones
“The
Bontnewydd and Caernarfon bypass is progressing quickly. Does the Cabinet
Member agree with me that we need to ensure that any cycle route scheme
resulting from ‘Active Travel’ is realized as soon as possible in the Bethel
area, as the road developments cross the intended cycle route?”
Response from the
Leader, Councillor Dyfrig Siencyn, in the absence of the Cabinet Member for the
Environment)
“I am pleased that the long-awaited bypass scheme
has finally commenced and it seems to be progressing well at the moment.
We had already identified the construction of a
cycle and walking route between Bethel and Caernarfon and Llanrug and
Caernarfon on our Active Travel Integrated Network Maps. Therefore, it has been
our aspiration to see the path built
I agree with you that we now have a golden
opportunity to make the scheme a reality as soon as possible following the
construction of the bypass and I can confirm that the Environment Department is
already in discussions with the Welsh Government to try to achieve this, also
with plan to build a route between Llanrug and Caernarfon.
Ideally I would like to see the scheme built as
part of the bypass scheme. As well as
resulting in cost savings, building it as part of the larger scheme would
reduce overall disruption to local traffic. We have already asked the Welsh
Government if this is feasible and are awaiting their response.”
Supplementary
Question from Councillor Sion Jones
"May I ask the Leader and the Transportation
Department to ensure that everything is ready and that any enquiries about
funding or information that is required by the Government receive an immediate
response to in order to ensure that progress happens as soon as possible?"
Response from the
Leader, Councillor Dyfrig Siencyn, in the absence of the Cabinet Member for the
Environment)
"I will meet the
department to see what can be done to drive the scheme forward, which is
something we all hope can be achieved."
(5) Question from Councillor
Louise Hughes
“Once again, over the
summer period, hundreds of vehicles were issued with parking tickets for
parking on the side of the A4086 near Pen y Pass. Gwynedd Council has been aware of the problem
for years, but to date no workable solutions have been put in place. We simply
cannot continue fining visitors in this way. How does the Department propose to
rectify the situation and put in place safe parking provisions?”
Response from the
Leader, Councillor Dyfrig Siencyn, in the absence of the Cabinet Member for the
Environment)
“There has been a
significant increase in the number of visitors to the Northern Snowdonia area
in recent years, particularly around Snowdon. This is of course encouraging
from a tourism perspective but problems arise, especially on the busiest days
when trying to cope with the numbers.
As many choose their personal vehicles to get to
the Area and to travel around the attractions, dealing with the huge demand for
parking is an almost impossible task. We have a responsibility to try and make
our road network as safe as possible, which is why parking and speed
restrictions are being imposed.
When
considering the A4086 around Pen y Pass and Pen y Gwryd clearway prohibitions
have already been implemented. I confirm that the signs comply with the Highway
Code standards, but at times quite high numbers choose to park there. We have a
responsibility to enforce, and we endeavour to do this to convey a message to
others not to park there.
It is therefore it is essential that the Pen y
Gwryd and Pen y Pass area are managed to the appropriate level, especially over
holiday periods. The Department is aware of the comments on social media and of
course there are two sides to this. Many of those who receive parking fines are
often upset but the feelings of locals about the problems that illegal parking
creates can be appreciated.
Discussions are ongoing with Snowdonia National
Park Authority, Conwy County along with other partners, to try to encourage
greater use of public transport and consider opportunities to create more
parking capacity.”