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    Notice of Motion by Councillor Elwyn Edwards

    • Meeting of The Council, Thursday, 7th October, 2021 1.00 pm (Item 12a)

    In accordance with the Notice of Motion received under Section 4.20 of the Constitution, Councillor Elwyn Edwards will propose as follows:-

     

    1.         That the Council asks the Cabinet to consider officially recognising St David’s Day by giving a day's leave to its workforce in order to celebrate our Patron Saint's Day on 1 March 2022 and every year thereafter.

    2.      That the Council calls on Westminster Government to devolve to Welsh Government the power to create bank holidays for Wales (via the Banking and Financial Dealings Act 1971) - in the same manner as already happens in Scotland and Northern Ireland.

    Decision:

    1.         That the Council asks the Cabinet to consider officially recognising St David’s Day by giving a day's leave to its workforce in order to celebrate our Patron Saint's Day on 1 March 2022 and every year thereafter.

    2.         That the Council calls on the Westminster Government to devolve to Welsh Government the power to create bank holidays for Wales (via the Banking and Financial Dealings Act 1971) – in the same manner as already happens in Scotland and Northern Ireland.

     

    Minutes:

     

    (A)     Submitted - the following notice of motion by Councillor Elwyn Edwards in accordance with Section 4.20 of the Constitution, and it was seconded:

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    1.         That the Council asks the Cabinet to consider officially recognising St David’s Day by giving a day's leave to its workforce in order to celebrate our Patron Saint's Day on 1 March 2022 and every year thereafter.

    2.       That the Council calls on Westminster Government to devolve to Welsh Government the power to create bank holidays for Wales (via the Banking and Financial Dealings Act 1971) - in the same manner as already happens in Scotland and Northern Ireland.

     

    The member set out the context for his motion by recounting some of the history of our patron saint and his significance to us Welsh, while also emphasising that the purpose of the motion was to try to reclaim some self-respect in terms of our distinctiveness and our national identity. 

     

    The Cabinet Member for Corporate Support noted:

     

    ·         She fully agreed with the principle and supported the call to establish St David's Day as a bank holiday in Wales.

    ·         In terms of the first part of the motion, should the Council grant an additional day's leave for staff, it was important to note that it would not be possible for the Council to grant that day to some staff, and not other staff who worked under the same employment terms and conditions. The additional day would have to be granted to those staff working on St David's Day in order to take it on another day during the year, and a cost would be associated with this should you wish to provide the additional day for this purpose. If there was a wish to use one of the current 1.5 additional day's leave provided by the Council to this end, a formal consultation with recognised trade unions would need to be undertaken, with a view to securing a collective agreement before action could be taken.

    ·         In terms of the second part of the motion, she fully supported the call as it was disgraceful and an embarrassment that the right to create bank holidays had been granted to the Scottish Government and the Northern Ireland Executive, but not to Welsh Government and she was ready to ensure that a letter would be submitted formally to the Westminster Government.

     

    During the discussion, the following observations were submitted by individual members:

     

    ·         It had been an insult to us for centuries that we did not have the right as a country to celebrate the day of our patron saint. Cost was still the argument but a bank holiday was an incredible boost for a rural economy and celebrating St David's Day should be part of the Council's post-Covid economic recovery programme.

    ·         It had to be made clear that St David's Day should be a holiday for the whole nation, and not only the workforce.

    ·         The Government and every other council in Wales should fight for this.

    ·         This was an excellent idea but as Council staff enjoyed much better employment terms than employees in the private sector, the additional day's leave should be taken from their current annual leave entitlement.

    ·         There was a duty on anyone living in Wales to support our patron saint, whatever their background and tradition.

    ·         Care had to be taken that we did not discriminate between employees working within the Council and other employees associated with Council work, but employed by private companies, such as carers.

    ·         The argument that schools needed to celebrate on 1 March did not carry weight. The date could fall on a Saturday or Sunday and it was possible for schools to celebrate on the nearest school day to St David's Day.

     

    A registered vote was called for on the motion.

     

    According to Procedural Rules, the following vote on the motion was recorded:

     

    In favour (56) Councillors: Craig ab Iago, Menna Baines, Beca Brown, Stephen Churchman, Steve Collings, R.Glyn Daniels, Elwyn Edwards, Alan Jones Evans, Aled Evans, Peter Antony Garlick, Simon Glyn, Gareth Wyn Griffith, Selwyn Griffiths, Alwyn Gruffydd, Annwen Hughes, John Brynmor Hughes, R.Medwyn Hughes, Judith Humphreys, Nia Jeffreys, Peredur Jenkins, Aeron M.Jones, Aled Wyn Jones, Berwyn Parry Jones, Elin Walker Jones, Elwyn Jones, Eric Merfyn Jones, Gareth Tudor Morris Jones, Huw Wyn Jones, Keith Jones, Kevin Morris Jones, Eryl Jones-Williams, Cai Larsen, Dafydd Meurig, Dilwyn Morgan,  Dewi Owen, Edgar Wyn Owen, Gwynfor Owen, Rheinallt Puw, Dewi Wyn Roberts, Elfed P.Roberts, Gareth A.Roberts, John Pughe Roberts, Mair Rowlands, Paul Rowlinson, Dyfrig Siencyn, Mike Stevens, Ioan Thomas, Hefin Underwood, Catrin Wager, Cemlyn Williams, Eirwyn Williams, Elfed Williams, Gareth Williams, Gethin Glyn Williams, Gruffydd Williams and Owain Williams.

     

    Against (0)

     

    Abstentions (0)

     

    The Chair noted that the amendment had been carried.

     

    RESOLVED to adopt the motion, namely:

     

    1.       That the Council asks the Cabinet to consider officially recognising St David’s Day by giving a day's leave to its workforce in order to celebrate our Patron Saint's Day on 1 March 2022 and every year thereafter.

    2.       That the Council calls on Westminster Government to devolve to Welsh Government the power to create bank holidays for Wales (via the Banking and Financial Dealings Act 1971) - in the same manner as already happens in Scotland and Northern Ireland.

     

    In response to a question from a member, the Monitoring Officer confirmed that Cabinet members had not prejudged their position in the Cabinet by voting on the matter, as the Cabinet would only be asked to consider the matter.

     

    Councillor Dewi Roberts asked whether members with relatives employed by the Council should declare an interest.  In response, the Monitoring Officer explained that, although they technically had an interest, the matter had now been discussed and passed, and it was the responsibility of members to determine whether or not they should declare.