To submit
the report of the Cabinet Member for Finance.
Decision:
For the 2023/24
financial year, that Cyngor Gwynedd:
·
Allows NO
discount on class A second homes, in accordance with Section 12 of the Local
Government Finance Act 1992 (i.e. no change from 2022/23).
·
Allows NO
discount and CHARGES A PREMIUM OF 150% on class B second homes in accordance
with Section 12B of the Local Government Finance Act 1992 (i.e. increase from
100% to 150%).
·
Allows NO
discount on homes that have been empty for 6 months or more and CHARGES A
PREMIUM of 100% on homes that have been empty for 12 months or more, in
accordance with Section 12A of the Local Government Finance Act 1992 (i.e. no
change from 2022/23).
Minutes:
The Cabinet Member for Finance, Councillor Ioan
Thomas, presented a report asking the Council for formal ratification for 2023/24, of previous decisions not to allow any discounts
for second homes and to disallow discounts on empty properties, and to raise a
Premium of 150% or 100% on such relevant properties. The Head of Finance gave
an outline of the principal points of the public consultation, and he thanked
the Communication and Engagement Team and the Research and Information Team for
their invaluable work preparing the consultation and analysing the results.
He also
thanked his colleagues in the Finance Department who had assisted with the
work.
Members were given an
opportunity to make observations and ask questions.
A member noted:-
·
That he welcomed the additions to what had been before the Governance and
Audit Committee, however he was not convinced that the additions, and
specifically the reference to Simon Brookes' report on second homes, had not
been considered deeply enough.
·
The impact of a holiday
home on an area's language profile was less than the impact of a non-Welsh
speaking residential dwelling, and the report did not entirely consider the
likely impact of increasing the Premium on the percentage of the population who
speak Welsh in those areas, nor the direct impact that is likely to be on the
native population.
·
There was a risk for
the proposal, as it stood, to deliver unintentional and deviant results, namely to motivate native people to sell property to
outsiders and motivate holiday home owners to transform them into residential
households.
·
He did not believe that
the report gave consideration to the possibility of
working from home, the impacts of the pandemic or the arrival of the Bontnewydd Bypass, that all facilitated the demographic
shift.
·
There was not a
never-ending population of Welsh speakers in these areas or a matching demand
for houses compared to the number of holiday homes we have in these areas. The
demographic/linguistic situation in these areas was extremely fragile, and the
Brookes report referred to the catastrophic results of moving too quickly to
reduce the number of holiday homes.
Based on these arguments,
the member proposed the following amendment, and it was seconded:-
That the Premium should not
be increased for the 2023/24 financial year, and a comprehensive linguistic
impact assessment should be received of the likely impacts of increasing the
Premium, clarity regarding exceptions, and to also give full
consideration to the other measures to control holiday homes.
A member noted that it would be better if the Council
voted on the three clauses of the recommendation separately, as there were some
matters that he would support and others that he would object.
The amendment was supported
by a number of members. It was noted that:-
·
If a public consultation was conducted, then the results should not be
disregarded, and 75% of the respondents objected increasing the Premium for
linguistic and economic reasons.
·
The owners of second homes spent locally, and
increasing the Premium would have an adverse impact on the area's businesses,
such as shops, restaurants and public houses, builders, plumbers and
electricians, as more and more second homes would be placed on the market.
·
As the Welsh Government
had agreed at last to differentiate between a home and a holiday home, and had
issued Article 4, for the local authority to be able to determine which
thresholds are acceptable in any community, there was a risk that increasing
the Premium currently would undermine that process, that was already fragile,
in the sense that a reaction to this decision could be far-reaching.
·
That increasing the Premium would not make houses more affordable for
local people, and it was the lack of quality jobs and low wages in the area
that were responsible for the fact that people could not afford housing, or
even to become homeless.
·
That it was not possible for local families in the tourism industry to
pay more Premium, and what about those people who inherit a house that had been
in the family for generations?
·
It was asked why couldn't the Council buy some
of the houses on the market in Aberdyfi, and renovate
them for local people to buy or rent, e.g. 3 floor houses could be converted
into 3 flats. In response to the comment, the Cabinet Member for Housing noted
that there was a plan within the Housing Action Plan, and the Department was
very busy buying houses that come up for sale throughout the county, including Aberdyfi, for rent or sale to local people.
·
It was believed that a Premium of 150% would cause more harm than good to
the community.
·
A great deal of finance had already been raised through the Premium,
however it was not being spent.
The amendment was objected by a number of other members.
It was noted that:-
·
Although the Welsh Government had proposed some solutions to the
situation regarding holiday homes, this was not tantamount to a Property Act,
and those solutions were not comprehensive that would to
get to the root of the problem.
·
The most vulnerable people in our community are the victims in this
situation, and not the owners of second homes, and over 3,000 people facing
homelessness and on the waiting lists for housing did not get an opportunity to
be part of the discussion.
·
Having a comfortable
and safe home was one of our most fundamental needs, and
hearing that 1,400 people will be homeless by the end of the year was
frightening. Also, the figures
regarding the additional cost to the Council to deliver its statutory duty to
home people was alarming, with expenditure of over £4.7m gross over this year's
budget, and £6m over next year's budget.
·
That increasing the
Premium to 300% overnight would be unfair and unreasonable, and the
consequences could be very harmful. On the other hand, should the amendment to
remain at 100% be accepted, the Council would lose the £3m needed to get to
grips with the homelessness crisis, and the only way to address the gap then
would be by cutting the Housing Action Plan, the Premium was assisting to fund.
It was believed that this would be a major error and it would mean breaching
the long-term plans to prevent homelessness and to assist young people into the
local market.
·
It would not be an increase in the Premium that would close local
business, but rather the policies of both Governments over the last 12 years -
austerity measures, inflation and wars.
·
Over 800 of the county's population were homeless, more than 200 living
in bed and breakfast establishments/hotels, 3,000 had to wait for over 3 years
to get social housing and 60% of the people of Gwynedd could not afford one
house, not to mention two.
·
That we need planning / housing tools and resources to create the type of
communities that are needed, and although the fact that the Government now
recognised the fact that it was a crisis, those tools were not received quickly
enough, if at all.
·
There were plans in the Housing Action Plan to assist local people that
had inherited housing to rent those houses to local families, rather than sell
them.
·
More and more people
saw their houses as a business opportunity and bought the stock to be let as Airbnbs in Gwynedd.
However, by increasing the Premium to 150%, the Council had the opportunity
today to send out a message that we are not for sale, and to take a break to
re-visit the situation.
·
It was not unreasonable to expect the owners of second homes to pay a
little more than others, bearing in mind of course that they have the option to
pay monthly.
·
Hotels were suffering as nobody were staying there, and it would be
better if the money raised would go to assisting these small hotels to support
themselves.
·
The proposal was supported on condition that more affordable houses would
be built and that the money would go towards ensuring that the homeless would
have a home in Gwynedd.
·
Sustainable tourism
that could be managed in the right place and of the right size was supported,
however tourism was not under consideration here, but houses bought from the
housing stock that remained vacant for the majority of
the year. Also, it was not believed that the argument regarding the impact on
local businesses held water as those people who live here throughout the year
use those services.
·
There was much talk
about the impact of increasing the Premium on native people, however those
people who stay in temporary accommodation are also native people. A great deal of homelessness was hidden - it
was not always people sleeping on the street, and the hidden element meant that
we did not notice or turned a blind eye.
·
It was not believed
that the 106 Section clause was a barrier anymore to get a mortgage, and the
use of this clause should be encouraged on new housing development.
·
There was a perception that there were no jobs available in Gwynedd,
however, there were plenty of jobs available.
There was a scarcity of carers, social workers, health workers,
teachers, classroom assistants, doctors etc.,here
and a hope was expressed that local people would apply for these jobs, and
would also apply for a place in the new Medical School that will come to
Bangor, and remain in the area to work in due course.
There was a request for a registered vote on the
amendment not to increase the Premium for the 2023/24 financial year, and to
get a comprehensive linguistic impact assessment of the likely impacts of
increasing the Premium, clarity regarding exceptions, and to also give full consideration to the other measures to control
holiday homes.
In accordance with Procedural Rules, the following
vote was recorded on the amendment:-
In favour |
21 |
Concillors Glyn Daniels, Anwen Davies, Dylan Fernley, John Brynmor Hughes, Louise
Hughes, Anne Lloyd Jones, Gwilym Jones, Eryl Jones-Williams, Beth Lawton,
Dewi Owen, Gareth Coj Parry, Nigel Pickavance, John Pughe, John Pughe
Roberts, Richard Glyn Roberts, Peter Thomas, Rob Triggs, Hefin Underwood,
Eirwyn Williams, Gareth Williams and Gruffydd Williams |
Against |
37 |
Councillors Craig ab Iago, Beca Brown, Dafydd Owen
Davies, Elwyn Edwards, Elfed Wyn ap Elwyn, Alan Jones Evans, Delyth Lloyd
Griffiths, Annwen Hughes, R.Medwyn Hughes, Iwan
Huws, Elin Hywel, Elwyn Jones, Berwyn Parry Jones, Dawn Lynne Jones, Elin
Walker Jones, Gareth Tudor Jones, Huw Wyn Jones, Kim Jones, June Jones, Menna
Jones, Cai Larsen, Dafydd Meurig, Dilwyn Morgan, Edgar Wyn Owen, Gwynfor
Owen, Llio Elenid Owen, Rheinallt Puw, Arwyn Herald Roberts, Gareth A.Roberts, Meryl Roberts, Paul Rowlinson, Dyfrig Siencyn,
Ioan Thomas, Rhys Tudur, Einir Wyn Williams, Elfed Williams and Sasha
Williams. |
Abstentions |
0 |
|
In his closing comments, the
Cabinet Member noted:-
·
There was no guarantee that some of the developments that the Welsh
Government have in the pipeline would occur tomorrow, and they would take a
considerable amount of time to realise these.
·
Regarding the pilot in Dwyfor, there were 2,138
second homes and 2,110 applications open for a social house in the area.
·
He believed that raising the Premium to 150% was reasonable.
A member noted that the report did not include data
that was thorough enough to measure the impact on communities and individual
wards, in terms of how many houses were moving, etc., and the proposer was
asked to consider an addition to the proposal that the impact of the Premium on
communities would be monitored seasonally, so that the impact could be seen
from month to month. In response, the
Chief Executive explained that there was no need to add to the proposal as
impact monitoring work would take place anyway, and the Council would consider
this matter again next year.
The Leader noted that he
believed that the point raised was fair, and the Cabinet Member should be asked
if he was willing to accept the addition to the proposal. In response, the
Monitoring Officer noted that he did not think that it was appropriate to
change the wording of the proposal at this point as the matter had not been
considered as part of the discussion.
Also, assurance had been given that the work would be undertaken anyway.
RESOLVED for the
2023/24 financial year, that Cyngor Gwynedd:
·
Allows NO discount
on class A second homes, in accordance with Section 12 of the Local Government
Finance Act 1992 (i.e. no change from 2022/23).
·
Allows NO discount and CHARGES A PREMIUM OF 150% on
class B second homes in accordance with Section 12B of the Local Government
Finance Act 1992 (i.e. increase from 100% to 150%).
·
Allows NO discount on homes that have been empty for 6
months or more and CHARGES A PREMIUM of 100% on homes that have been empty for
12 months or more, in accordance with Section 12A of the Local Government Finance
Act 1992 (i.e. no change from 2022/23).
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