To consider any questions the appropriate
notice for which have been given under Section 4.19 of the Constitution.
Minutes:
(The Cabinet Members' written responses to the questions had been
published in advance.)
(1) Question from Councillor Beca Brown
"In 2019 as a
Council we declared a Climate and Nature Crisis accepting that the extreme
changes in the climate are having a negative impact on our communities, and
across the world. Climate change risks are very real risks for a number of Gwynedd residents - from flooding to landslides,
and extreme hot and cold weather - the cost of ignoring the climate change is
increasing. How much Carbon has the
Council saved since the start of our work to reduce carbon emissions with
Cyngor Gwynedd's Carbon Management Plan, can you elaborate on how much money
these changes have saved for the Council?"
Response from the Leader of the Council, Councillor Dyfrig Siencyn
"This is one of
the most important subjects that we as a Council face and I will read the
written answer in full as we believe that this is such an important matter.
It is true that as a
Council we were committed to reducing the environmental impact of our
activities long before we declared a Climate and Nature Emergency in 2019. Back
in 2010, we adopted a Carbon Management Plan in order to
manage and reduce our
carbon footprint. Since its
introduction, we have saved 103,757 tonnes of carbon from the emissions created
through energy use in our buildings (schools, leisure centres, residential
homes, libraries, offices and more), our streetlights, our fleet and use of
vehicles, and our waste.
After a decade of taking action and succeeding in the energy conservation
field, the
annual carbon footprint of our direct activities were 43% less than before we
began this journey.
Since 2010, we have worked tirelessly to try and
take advantage of any possible
opportunity to reduce our carbon footprint, including investing £7.4M in projects
such as 613kWp of solar panels on 55 of our sites to generate our own
electricity, upgrading lighting and lamps to the most current technology,
insulating our buildings to retain heat, covering swimming pools overnight, and
much more. Our dedicated energy team also regularly monitor the energy
consumption patterns of our buildings in order to
identify waste and to ensure efficiency and use software which enables them to
manage energy use in various buildings across the county from the team’s office
in Caernarfon.
In fact, Cyngor
Gwynedd’s Energy Team has received national recognition for their work as they
won the 'Public Sector Energy Management Team' award at the UK’s Energy
Managers Association Awards in 2020.
This work has led to
a financial saving of £14.75M for the Council since 2010.
I would also like to draw attention to the
astonishing financial benefit that we are gaining from today, due to our
success over the last decade. If we had continued to use the same amount of
energy as we did in 2010, our energy bills would have been £4.3M higher last
year. If we had had to pay this additional cost, it would have resulted in
£4.3M more cuts in frontline services, or increased Council Tax by 5.4% in
addition to this year's increase.
To conclude, it’s
worth emphasising that we as a Council have prioritised this agenda long before
declaring a Climate and Nature Emergency back in 2019, and that over the years
we have succeeded in making a difference by managing our direct carbon
footprint as a contribution to protecting our environment for generations to
come. This work continues and evolves so that we try to reach the Welsh
Government's goal of being net zero carbon by 2030. We will need to be aware of
the fact that the next period will be even more challenging, as we
tackle carbon emissions arising from our procurement activity, commuting to
work etc."
Supplementary
Question from Councillor Beca Roberts
"What is the
Council doing to support and inspire the people and businesses of Gwynedd to
take the same steps so that they address the climate emergency?"
Response from the Leader of the Council,
Councillor Dyfrig Siencyn
"As we were establishing the Climate Change
Board some years ago now, following the decision to declare a climate
emergency, our priority at the time was to ensure that our activity as a
Council, and what we had control over, reached the aim. I believe that the next
step facing us is reaching out to our communities and businesses, so the
Climate Change Board will consider those steps from then on, as well as seeking
to reach the 2030 net zero goal. This is quite a challenge indeed, and it also
comes at a cost, but getting and inspiring our communities to be involved in
this important project is going to be a priority for the work of the Climate
Change Board as we move forward."
(2) Question by Councillor Rhys Tudur
"Other
than forming a taskforce at the request of the Education and Economy Scrutiny
Committee, what proactive steps has the Education Department taken to update
the Gwynedd Schools Language Policy so that it is more compatible with the new
categorisation procedure for Welsh medium education provision which has been
operational since September 2022?"
Response from the Cabinet Member for Education,
Councillor Beca Brown
"As you can see,
the written answer refers to a number of county successes in respect of the
Welsh language in education, we are not boasting when we say this, and we need
to bear in mind that what happens with the Welsh language in Gwynedd is the
subject of admiration and envy in nearby counties and across Wales. As it happens, I was recently reminded of
that at a meeting with the Welsh Government, where they were astounded at our
ability to sustain the position of the Welsh language.
The question refers to the categorisation
procedure, but our Language Policy stands on its own feet and is not driven by
the categories procedure since the category for us is merely an administrative
issue, of course, our aspiration here in Gwynedd is substantially higher than
what is noted in the category. However,
the important point when saying that is that the Policy, of course, is
important, as the question notes, and I am glad to be able to say that there is
an intention to update the Language Policy in order to reflect the changes that
have occurred in the education field and to respond to our aspirations in terms
of promoting the Welsh language in Gwynedd; aspirations that are, of course, as
ambitious and innovative as ever.
As well as forming the taskforce, the Department
has been gathering information and data about the bilingual provision across
our schools and this, as well as the research findings of the scrutiny
taskforce, will assist us as we update this Policy for the better, and build on
the historical successes; some of which are referenced in the written answer."
Supplementary Question from Councillor Rhys
Tudur
"The current Language Policy promotes the
introduction of an English medium education.
Has there been any significant change to the Gwynedd Schools Language
Policy over the past 30 years in response to the demographic changes and
language shift in society?”
Response from the Cabinet Member for Education,
Councillor Beca Brown
"We offer a bilingual education in this
county, of course, and Welsh is available to all, and everyone receives Welsh.
There is no avoiding Welsh here in the county.
We know that work is being done with two schools, but a bilingual
education in Welsh and English, of course, with the emphasis on Welsh, is what
happens here. I am unaware of recent
changes to the Policy, but in fairness, the Policy has been very successful and
has operated on the clear principle that Welsh is available to all, and that
everyone receives it.
However, we are aware from seeing the Census
statistics, that there are challenges in terms of the population, etc., and
this means that we need to look at those new challenges. Also, several changes have occurred in the
education field, therefore it is timely for us to address those and new
challenges in terms of the population, and this will arise in another question later on.
Without dwelling on the past, what matters is
what is happening now, and what is going to be happening, and what is happening
now is that we are looking at the Policy and are going to update and strengthen
it, and that this will, hopefully, be in line with our aspiration, which is
always ambitious in this county."
(3) Question by Councillor Richard Glyn Roberts
"A new provision in the field
of care is to be welcomed, but is it appropriate to express unconditional
approval and support, in advance, to plans that bind that said provision to a
housing development of a scale that is not necessarily commensurate with the
local need for housing and which clouds and obscures these matters, care and
housing, until efforts to balance the potential social impact of these plans
are undermined beforehand?"
Response from the Cabinet Member for Adults,
Health and Well-being, Councillor Dilwyn Morgan:
"Thank you for the question because it
gives me an opportunity to raise awareness and share good news about an
innovative and very exciting plan for us here in Gwynedd, and I am glad of the
Member's support to this new provision.
The background to the partnership that is
collaborating on this plan is us, of course, Cyngor Gwynedd, the Housing and
Property Department and Adults, Health and Well-being
Department, and I may give the opportunity, with the permission of the
Monitoring Officer, to the Cabinet Member for Housing, Councillor Craig ab
Iago, to also contribute to the answer, should there be a supplementary
question. The other partners are Betsi
Cadwaladr University Health Board, Clwyd Alyn Housing Association
and the local community, and this is really important, since this includes the
local pharmacists and doctors, as well as members of the wider local community
of Llŷn and Eifionydd.
I am going to answer the question as the Chair
of the Penyberth Site Redevelopment Programme Board,
a board which, by the way, retains the absolute right to approve or refuse
every decision regarding this site. Whilst I am grateful for the question, I
must disagree and confirm that "expressing unconditional approval and
support in advance", as noted in the question, is not factually correct.
Therefore, I must disagree with the Member on that, but again, I genuinely
welcome the Member's support to this care provision which will, of course,
include a mix of care homes, nursing beds provision, dementia provision, and much
more. And I will finish by stating that
any member of the Council is welcome to contact me on any matter regarding Penyberth, and more broadly in terms of the Adults
Department, and I am always available. Thank you again for the question and for
the opportunity to raise awareness of the Penyberth
site."
Supplementary
Question from Councillor Richard Glyn Roberts
"The final
paragraph of the written response would have been a sufficient response to a
paragraph of a question. Why do you feel
the necessity for the preamble?"
Response from the
Cabinet Member for Adults, Health and Well-being, Councillor Dilwyn Morgan:
"I think I have
answered the supplementary question at the beginning. I have emphasised that
this is such an innovative and exciting plan that we as a Council must take
advantage of any opportunity to get the message out there. It is such an important message, not only for
the residents of Llŷn and Eifionydd,
but for our rural areas, and so that is the reason for the comprehensive
response, and I am very proud of the answer and the opportunity to get the
message out to the public."
(4) Question from Councillor Gwynfor Owen
Following a meeting
with Lee Waters in Cardiff on Wednesday, 26 April 2023 to discuss concerns
about the safety of Llanbedr roads, may I ask the Leader to report to the
Council on the outcome of those discussions?
Response from the Leader of the Council,
Councillor Dyfrig Siencyn
"It was a meeting that could be described
as historical, i.e. the Deputy Minister and I have not
been on the best of terms since he declared that the Llanbedr Bypass scheme
would not be going ahead, and we have had words since that time. However, I had an opportunity to attend the
meeting with the Deputy Minister as well as representatives from a Group of
Llanbedr People, and our Member of the Senedd, Mabon ap Gwynfor, and our Member
of Parliament, Liz Saville Roberts.
Before we got the chance to say anything really,
the Deputy Minister declared that he supported plans for a road, but not a
bypass, but a low-speed relief road for Llanbedr as a part of the broader Green
Corridor scheme. I had attended a
meeting a few days earlier, where there had been a lot of talk about developing
the Green Corridor. We are very eager to
develop the Green Corridor along the Ardudwy
coastline, but without the relief road, the Green Corridor was not going to
work.
This is a major step forward and is very
encouraging and the local residents are overjoyed
after hearing the announcement, as we know.
However, we must issue a minor health warning - there has been no
confirmation of funding for the scheme, therefore, there are no assurances at
present that any scheme will be funded.
We are also unaware of the timetable that the Government has in mind,
therefore, we look forward to any further discussions with the Deputy Minister
and his officers in order to move the project forward.
Before I finish, can I also thank the people of
Llanbedr for their perseverance with this matter and for working so hard to
secure the Government's ear. It was
having a serious impact on the lives of the people of Llanbedr, and I would
like to personally thank them very much for their efforts."
Supplementary
Question from Councillor Gwynfor Owen
"Can the Leader
report what he anticipates that the Council and the Welsh Government will need
to do from now on to realise the scheme?"
Response from the
Leader of the Council, Councillor Dyfrig Siencyn
"The first steps that will have to be taken
is to go through the whole process of preparing the new plans, obtaining
permissions from the regulators, planning permission, undertaking all local
consultations, etc., and the Government is going to be collaborating with our
Environment Department to develop those plans.
So that is the work that will be happening next. This could take considerable time. I would assume that there will be at least a
year or two before we get those plans in place, and there is a cost involved as
well.
The Government has offered financial aid to
develop those plans. Can I just say that
I am not celebrating as much as others because I know that no money has been
earmarked. As we know, of course, money
had been earmarked. We were about to go
out to tender regarding the original plan, before the Deputy Minister made his
statement, so everything that was in place, including European funding, has now
been lost. You will also recall that we submitted a bid to the Levelling Up fund,
which was unsuccessful, so the only financial source we have left is the Welsh
Government.
Therefore, the task for us, it seems, from now
on, when developing the plans, is to press on the Government for their
commitment to fund the plan, and it will be a broader plan, extending beyond
the road around Llanbedr. I was very concerned about the attitude in the
original report which stated that the Llanbedr airfield site was not suitable
for economic development, as it was in a rural location. For me, that is a very serious policy
statement for rural areas. These are the exact type of sites that we need to
develop in order to offer quality employment outside
agriculture and tourism. Therefore, I am
very pleased that there has been some kind of development,
in the hope that this will proceed."
(5) Question from Councillor Huw Rowlands
"The demographic for
Gwynedd school pupil numbers shows a decline for the coming years.
In light of this, what strategy does
Cyngor Gwynedd have to cope with this challenge, especially in the context of
small and rural schools?"
Response from the Cabinet Member for Education,
Councillor Beca Brown
"This is a very
important question that raises matters that we should all be fully aware of.
One of the most striking things for me as I prepared the written response was,
in terms of the number of primary schools we have, that Gwynedd is fourth
highest of all Welsh Authorities with only Cardiff, Carmarthenshire and Rhondda
Cynon Taf, with a higher number of primary schools
than us. In terms of the number of
secondary schools, Gwynedd is the third highest (jointly with Swansea) of all
Welsh authorities, with only Cardiff and Rhondda Cynon Taf
with more secondary schools than us.
However, there are around 20,000 more primary learners, and 20,000 more
secondary learners in Cardiff compared to Gwynedd, and that speaks volumes.
It is also striking
that the birth rates have been reducing, and that the Welsh Government's
projections suggest a further decline of around 16% in the number of 3-18 year old learners by 2038.
Therefore, obvious and substantial challenges lie ahead. In response to
this very concerning picture, the Department is in the process of drawing up a
new Education Strategy that will note the Department's vision, aim and
objectives in order to address these major changes that are afoot in terms of
our county's population."
Supplementary
Question from Councillor Huw Rowlands
"How will you develop the Strategy and with
whom will you consult when developing the Strategy?"
Response from the
Cabinet Member for Education, Councillor Beca Brown
"It is slightly premature for me to be able
to give you many details, but a draft will be submitted before the Education
and Economy Scrutiny Committee in September this year, and I look forward to
hearing the impressions of the scrutinisers on the draft. Of course, a consultation will be held with
stakeholders, and the draft Strategy will be pre-scrutinised. In general, I
believe that it is essential that there is ‘joined-up thinking’ in terms
of forward planning for the huge challenge we have, and that this happens
across many departments; Economy, Housing and Education, because this is a
matter for communities fundamentally, and how we attract and retain families
here, and maybe attract them back from places such as Cardiff.
There is a lot of work to do, and we are often
battling against factors that are beyond our control, but that is not to say
that there is nothing we can do either, and I would like to think that there
are things that we can do, and indeed, I believe that this is one of the most
important pieces of work that we will do, so I thank you for the
question."
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