To consider extending the appointment of Alwen Williams as the CJC’s part-time Chief Executive,
on a temporary secondment basis, up
to the end of March, 2024.
To extend the appointment of Alwen Williams as the North Wales Corporate
Joint Committee's Interim Chief Executive, on a temporary secondment basis,
until the end of March 2024.
The report was submitted by Geraint
Owen, Cyngor Gwynedd.
Further to the content of the
report, it was noted that the NWEAB had agreed at its meeting earlier that day
to release Alwen Williams from her role for the period in question.
RESOLVED to extend the
appointment of Alwen Williams as the North Wales Corporate Joint Committee's
Interim Chief Executive, on a temporary secondment basis, until the end of
It was asked whether the secondment
meant that there was underspend on Alwen Williams' salary as Portfolio Director
for the NWEAB. In response, it was explained that the amount transferred to the
NWEAB for releasing Alwen Williams on a part-time basis created an underspend,
but that this money was being used for another officer in the Portfolio Officer
who was deputising for Alwen Williams for the two days that she worked for the
Corporate Joint Committee.
The Leader of Flintshire Council
expressed his concern that it appeared, therefore, that there was back-filling
of the role in the NWEAB whilst the work of the Corporate Joint Committee was
being fulfilled, and he added that he had no recollection of this ever being
discussed in the NWEAB. In response, it was explained that part of the
arrangement when the secondment was approved originally, was to give assurance
to the NWEAB that there would be stepping up in terms of the role of the
Portfolio Director in order to support the Growth Deal, and that this had been
reported to the NWEAB at the time.
It was noted that the report
referred to the fact that another item on the meeting agenda elaborated on the
additional resource identified to support the Interim Chief Executive with the
work of establishing the Corporate Joint Committee finally by 1 April 2024, but
that no reference to this could be seen in the papers. In response, it was
suggested that this was a question to ask the Interim Chief Executive after she
returned to the meeting for the next item as it was she who had put this
arrangement in place.
Following the vote on the item, the
Leader of Flintshire Council noted that he wished to record that he had voted
against the secondment as he had no recollection of a report being submitted to
the NWEAB regarding who would be filling in for the Portfolio Director.
The Chair noted that the question
could be put to the Interim Chief Executive after she returned to the meeting,
and he asked the member whether he wished to continue to note his objection.
The Leader of Flintshire Council
noted that he wished for his concern to be noted and that he was asking for a
report to the NWEAB and to the Corporate Joint Committee explaining who was
filling in in the NWEAB for the two days when the Portfolio Director was not available,
and how and when that appointment/those appointments had been made.
was called back to the meeting, and was asked to explain the situation. In
response, she noted that, as both Governments wished to have confirmation that
the secondment to the Corporate Joint Committee would not affect the ability or
resources to deliver against the Growth Deal, arrangements had been put in
place for the two days to be filled by resources from within the existing
Portfolio Office team.
The Chair asked whether there was
any additional expenditure as a result. The Assistant Head of Finance noted
that she did not have the exact figure, but that the information could be
relayed to the members.
The Chair noted that there was a
request for clarity, clearly, but that this was a matter for the NWEAB, rather
than the Corporate Joint Committee, and he suggested that at the next meeting
of the NWEAB reference could be made to the decision made to fill in and to
provide additional support to the Portfolio Office.
The Interim Chief Executive further
commenced with both Governments regarding the arrangements to establish the
Corporate Joint Committee and making the request to allocate some of her time
to the CJC, Welsh Government had been quite positive, but wanted assurance that
this would not have a negative impact on the Growth Deal as a priority.
That UK Government also
wanted to make quite sure that there would be no negative impact on our ability
or on the resources to reach the objectives of the Growth Deal.
That it was not as
simple as moving resources from one place to another and that there had been
fairly lengthy discussions at the beginning to build on the relationship and
give assurance that we would be able to move ahead to establish the Corporate
Joint Committee and continue to reach the requirements of the Governments in
relation to the Growth Deal.
The Leader of Flintshire reiterated his concerns and
expressed that he was extremely disappointed at what appeared to him as a lack
of transparency from the Host Authority.
The Chair confirmed that a detailed report would be
submitted to the next NWEAB in order to have full clarity.