Cabinet
Member – Councillor Menna Trenholme
To submit a
report on the above.
A lunch break
is planned for 12.00pm – 1.00pm
Decision:
To accept the report and note the
observations.
Minutes:
The Cabinet Member for
Corporate Support and officers from the Corporate Support Department were
welcomed to the meeting.
Submitted
- the report of the Cabinet Member for Corporate Support explaining that the
Council had a specific duty, as part of the Equality Act 2010, to review its
Equality Objectives by the end of March 2024, and she invited the input of the
scrutineers to the draft objectives.
The Cabinet Member set out the context and thanked
the officers for all their work in this field.
Members
were then given an opportunity to ask questions and submit observations.
It was
noted that the most important thing to remember in terms of equality was that
the starting point was not the same for everyone and that sometimes the
starting point needed to be moved so that people with barriers which prevented
them from being equal in society could move forward. With that, it was asked which steps the
Council were taking, for example, to give jobs to people with those
inequalities and to give them an opportunity to step forward. In response, it was noted:-
·
That the intention of the objectives of the Strategic
Equality Plan was to try to move things forward for those people who
experienced inequality and that four objectives were working towards action
points on this.
·
That the first objective was involved with employment
and that this was in accordance with the guidance.
·
Consideration had also been given to what else that
needed to be done. The staff had been
asked to complete a questionnaire noting their characteristics, but many did
not do so for various reasons, but without this information, it was not
possible to know what the situation was within the Council and who needed the
most encouragement. As a result, it was
decided that actions points were required which would move this forward.
·
That the Council had a legal duty to be a welcoming
employer to all, and the right attitudes were needed within the organisation
operating in a manner that was welcoming to all and encouraged everyone to come
and work for us, e.g. it was possible to undertake reasonable adaptations to
the workplace for people who felt that they needed support to come and work for
the Council.
·
That there was room to improve this again and that
part of the Plan on employment set an ambition to undertake specific steps
towards ensuring that Gwynedd was the chosen employer for all.
It was
enquired how more women could be attracted to senior managers' posts. In response, it was noted:-
·
That the Women in Leadership field was a priority
field within the Council and that a project working on changing the culture had
been in place for many years and making great progress.
·
That a pilot scheme was underway examining how job
application forms were being screened to ensure that there was no type of
unnecessary bias.
·
In terms of other characteristics, that an equality
core group met on a quarterly basis and included representatives from groups
representing people with different characteristics, to obtain specialist
opinion from them on different matters.
·
As part of the engagement, that officers had visited
several groups, including young carers and Pride, to obtain their opinion before
drawing up the draft, and it was intended to undertake further engagement work
mainly with different groups for this part of the consultation.
General
concern was expressed that identity politics focusing on relatively small
groups in society evaded the basic inequality, namely the socio-economic
inequality, and the fact that the report provided more detail on reducing this
to close the pay gap was welcomed, as that was where our focus should be.
Concern
was expressed that women were being over-represented in low salary jobs, e.g.
in the care field.
It was
noted that the cohort that had responded to the questionnaire was not representational
of the county's population linguistically (33% compared to approximately 64%)
and it was suggested that this could explain the anti-Welsh undertones felt
here and there in the observations. It
was noted that officers had responded quite firmly to this in the observations,
but some discriminatory observations in other fields had been omitted, and it
was asked whether the hostile and disparaging observations towards the Welsh
language should also be omitted and not addressed either. In response, it was noted:-
·
As so much of this was being said, not only in this
questionnaire, but in other questionnaires as well, it was felt that this
needed to be addressed as it was important to teach people about our way of
looking at things, and our way of operating in Gwynedd.
·
Therefore, there was an intention to have an action
point stating that we would sell our vision of the Welsh language and our logic
for asking people for the skill of being able to speak Welsh.
Reference
was made to the following sentence in the report "Equality officers
also met with various groups of people with protected characteristics,
including young carers, disabled people, LGBTQ+ people, etc."
and it was noted that it was astounding that there was no report relating to
equality and equal opportunity recognising all of those groups.
It was
noticed that the response to the questionnaire from the Bala / Penllyn area was
low compared to other areas and it was asked why so few young people had
responded to the questionnaire. In response, it was noted that young carers and
young people in Gisda were visited in an attempt to ensure that we got a
representation of young voices. It was also intended to question the Young
Farmers and Coleg Meirion-Dwyfor.
It was
enquired how it was intended to stimulate the interest of young people who had
left school in the Gwynedd Youth Forum. In response, it was noted that the most
important thing, as with every characteristic, was to ask the young people
themselves what was the best way of doing so, and to act accordingly.
It was
asked how Gwynedd compared with other councils in terms of equality in the
workplace and what steps were being taken to ensure that the entire workforce
placed an emphasis on this. In response,
it was noted:-
·
That other councils experienced the same obstacles as
Gwynedd in reality and that there was work to be done on why we were
emphasising this field.
·
As there were gaps in our systems in terms of
including people with characteristics in our employment arrangements, it was
intended to establish a staff forum that would be a way of having a two-way
dialogue and gather ideas to set-up schemes based on clear evidence.
The fact
that the education field had been included in the objectives was welcomed, but
it was noted that the action points were matters that related to the world of
education, and that the equality link was not clear in all of them. The reason why the action points related to
equality was explained. It was stated
that every school was required to have its own equality plan and these action
points would establish a framework as a starting point for the schools to
develop their own plans.
The
Equality Advisor was thanked for her work and commitment to the field and
everyone was urged to attend one of the equality training sessions that she
organised.
RESOLVED to accept the report and to note the
observations.
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