To consider
the report.
Decision:
a) To accept the report and to request the Corporate
Director to consider distributing the information to the public if possible.
Minutes:
The report was submitted by noting that the item had arisen following a
question asked by the former chair some time ago, which was what people should
do if individuals fell in their communities. It was not possible to respond to
the question quickly, but after some discussions with the Welsh Ambulance Trust
and co-workers in the Betsi Cadwaladr Health Board, it was highlighted that
there was no national or regional protocol for this matter. It was explained
that the "I Stumble" protocol was used by the trust, the Health Board
and some other local authorities, but that this protocol looked at how to help
individuals if they fall and how to deal with them after they fall. It was
highlighted that the protocol did not deal with the question which is how to
respond if individuals fell and an ambulance was not available for 8-10 hours,
and what advice could be given to a carer.
It was expressed that work had been made to translate and add to the
"I Stumble" system, and specifically to the "Very Long Waiting Time?"
part. It was emphasised that the observations were superficial, but it was not
possible to go into much detail as it was a very difficult situation as every
case was different. It was explained that the Betsi Cadwaladr Health Board
Therapists Regional Director was happy to put a Health Board badge on it. It
was added that a consultation on the document would be held to see whether
there was a better way of sharing the information. Following this, it was noted
that training would be held for internal carers and external providers.
In addition to this, it was noted that officers within the Welsh
Ambulance Trust were very eager to start a pilot in Gwynedd to see whether it
was possible to locate equipment to lift individuals that have fallen in
suitable locations within the communities, and to train local volunteers on how
to use them. It was noted that they were expecting a specific plan in terms of
locations etc., and despite it being different to the protocol, it was
explained that it had developed as a result of the discussions that had risen.
During the discussion, the following
observations were noted:-
- Gratitude was
expressed for the report, and congratulations was given on creating a clear
report, considering that a protocol was not in place before this. It was
highlighted that the 'Very Long Waiting Time?' element might need to be in
another colour to draw attention to it.
- It was enquired
whether there was a timetable to hold training on the protocol jointly with the
Health Board, or whether there was a timetable for the pilot scheme.
o
It was noted in terms of
the training, that there was no definite timetable but that there was no reason
to delay and it was hoped that it would be possible to hold it during the
spring, ready for the summer and autumn.
o
He noted, in terms of the
pilot scheme, that there was no date but the Corporate Director would continue
to enquire to put a timetable in place.
- It was enquired whether it was possible to create a page for the public
after it was accepted, as it was very important for this information to be
shared further as it was useful to everyone.
o
It was expressed that there was no intention to do
this, but did not see any problem with creating it, as it would not cost a lot
to create and would be very valuable. It was highlighted that there was a need
to think about how to distribute the information to the public.
- It was noted that the former chair Cllr Eryl Jones Williams, as he had
noted his apology, thanked for the reported.
RESOLVED
a) To accept the report and to request the Corporate Director to consider
distributing the information to the public if possible.
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