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    Application No C23/0463/18/LL Plas Coch, Penisarwaun, Caernarfon, Gwynedd, LL55 3PW

    • Meeting of Planning Committee, Monday, 5th February, 2024 1.00 pm (Item 7.)

    Retrospective application to convert an outbuilding to holiday let

     

    Local Member: Councillor Elwyn Jones

     

    Link to relevant background documents

    Decision:

    DECISION: To defer in order to host further discussions with the applicant

    -       need to discuss the mitigation measures to reduce the development's impact on residential amenities in terms of disturbance and privacy

     

    Minutes:

    Retrospective application to convert an outbuilding to a holiday let.

     

    Some of Members had visited the site on the morning of 05-02-2024.

     

    a)             The Planning Manager highlighted that this was a full retrospective application to convert an outbuilding to a holiday let. ⁠As the proposal had already been completed without planning permission, a retrospective application had been submitted. It was explained that the unit had been an outbuilding which was being used as an ancillary use to the Plas Coch property. The outbuilding had now been renovated and converted into one modern holiday unit. A decision on the application was deferred at the Planning Committee on 15-01-24 for Members to visit the site.

     

    It was highlighted that the principle of the proposal was assessed against policy TWR 2 'Holiday Accommodation' in the Local Development Plan (LDP) that permitted proposals that involved the provision of self-serviced holiday accommodation provided the proposal complied with a series of criteria. ⁠

     

    ⁠In considering the criteria, it was noted that the building already existed and was not a new building - it was located within the curtilage of the existing property and made good use of a used building that was ancillary to the residential property.  It was considered that the scale was appropriate as it did not create a holiday let that was excessively large, and as the unit was already being used as an outbuilding it did not lead to the loss of permanent housing stock. It was reiterated that the unit was located in a rural area near individual scattered houses, and as a result would not cause significant damage to the residential character of the area as it was a sprawling residential housing location.

     

    It was highlighted that any application to convert an existing building should include a full structural survey by a qualified person indicating that the building would be structurally suitable for conversion without undertaking substantial reconstruction, alterations and extensions. ⁠ It was noted that no structural report had been included with the application as the property had already been converted - there was no value to a structural report as the alterations had already been completed on site.

     

    There was a reference to paragraph 3.2.1 TAN 23: Economic Development, which noted that the re-use and adaptation of existing rural buildings had an important role to play in meeting the needs of rural areas for commercial and industrial development, and tourism, sport and recreation. It was emphasised that the building in question needed to be suitable for use.

     

    When considering over-concentration and responding to the criterion - "that the development would not lead to an over-concentration of such accommodation in the area", it was highlighted that it should be ensured that a Business Plan was submitted as part of the application to include the necessary information in terms of the vision for the proposal and to ensure there was a market for this type of use (paragraph 6.3.67 of the LDP). It was noted that a Business Plan had been submitted with the planning application, outlining the proposal and how the development added to the local economy through tourism.  To this end it was considered that the Business Plan met this relevant criterion.

     

    In the context of visual matters, although the proposal did not involve any change to the size of the outbuilding, there were changes to the front elevation with glass being installed on the majority of the elevation. As well as this, a roof-light, and other windows and doors were being repositioned, and the building's finish was completely different to that of the former building. It was not deemed that the proposal would detract from the visual amenities of the area, nor that it would have a significantly negative impact on the Landscape of Outstanding Historic Interest.

     

    However, attention was drawn to concerns received that the unit did not fit in with the landscape and that original materials had been removed and replaced with other materials. It was reiterated that concerns that the alteration to the building was causing a negative visual impact, however, the plans did not show a change in the shape or size of the original building. It was highlighted that there was a significant change to the front elevation with the developer having installed glass along the elevation, but the elevation did not directly face nearby housing, and the elevation was not overly noticeable from the road as it was the side elevation that faced the access road. Although the original materials had not been retained, the materials used were not considered unacceptable and they did not affect the character of the area significantly enough to cause a negative impact. This meant that the development was acceptable and met the requirements of Policy PCYFF 3, PS 20 and AT 1 of the LDP.

     

    In the context of general and residential matters, it was noted that although the building's appearance had changed somewhat, the changes were not considered excessive, and consequently did not affect the setting of the unit on the site. Although it could be argued that the changes made were modern, contrary to the character and the rural sense of the area, the impact was not considered significant enough to be considered unacceptable and it was not believed that this impact was substantial enough to be considered unacceptable in terms of the policy as the shape and scale of the unit remained unchanged.

     

    In the context of transport and access matters, it was noted that there were concerns about the location of the holiday unit on a narrow road which was used by local people. There were concerns about the holiday unit use that would make this narrow lane busier and affect the amenities of nearby residents. The Transportation Unit was consulted regarding this matter and the unit had no objection regarding this element of the development. It was reported that parking spaces had been designated for the holiday unit, and the residential property had a garage on site.

     

    Although the applicant was asked several times for a Language statement, no statement had been received. ⁠It was noted that the guidance contained in Appendix 5 stated that all retail, commercial or industrial developments where a Welsh Language Statement/Assessment was not needed to be submitted should demonstrate how consideration had been given to the language. In this case, the policies of the plan supported tourism developments in line with specific criteria that related to over-provision, therefore it was considered in this case and as the proposal complied with the requirements of the relevant policies, the proposal was unlikely to have a harmful impact on the Welsh language. In addition, it was also possible to impose a condition to ensure that bilingual signs were used on the site and therefore it was considered that the proposal was acceptable in respect of policy PS1 and the relevant SPG.

     

    Reference was made to several concerns received during the public consultation with some of them being non-planning issues. The Local Planning Authority had no control over the fact that the original property on the site was also holiday accommodation, as there was currently a right to change use from a residential property to holiday accommodation without planning permission. It was emphasised, in this case, that it would be the plans that were the subject of the application that would be approved, and that it was the applicant's responsibility to ensure that the development conformed to what had been permitted.

     

    It was noted that the development was completed without the necessary Planning permission and was consequently an 'unauthorised development'. Carrying out a development without first obtaining the necessary planning permission was not a criminal offence, but such action was discouraged. However, and in accordance with national guidelines as contained in the Development Control Manual it should be sought to correct the effects of the unauthorised development and not to penalise the person(s) carrying out the unauthorised development. It was considered that the proposal met the requirements of the relevant policies and was acceptable for approval.

     

    b)         Taking advantage of the right to speak, the Local Member made the following points:

    ·         He was grateful to Members for visiting the site. 

    ·         That the development infringed the neighbours' privacy.

    ·         The Member did not agree with the officers' statement that there was only 'a little change' here; one side of the converted house had been converted from stone to glass.

    ·         That light from inside the house would disturb a dark night.

    ·         There were other huts on site - was there an intention for these also to be converted into holiday homes? Setting a dangerous precedent.

    ·         The track to the site was in a poor condition - this would worsen with increased occupancy - need to ensure that the track is maintained in a good condition.

    ·         That the site was unsuitable for holiday accommodation.

     

    c)         It was proposed and seconded to approve the application.

     

    ch)     During the ensuing discussion, the following observations were made by members:

    ·         That overlooking was a concern- it was possible to see into the conservatory of nearby neighbours.

    ·         Although the holiday accommodation had been converted to a high-quality, it looked out of place.

    ·         That the track to the site was narrow and in a poor condition – unsuitable. 

    ·         There were other buildings on site - concern that this may set a precedent.

    ·         That the Community Council had stated their opposition along with several objections from neighbouring residents.

    ·         That the property was having a negative impact on nearby residents - particularly its proximity to Coed y Parc - this was a gross infringement on privacy.

    ·         That the window was too obvious - substantial overlooking. 

    ·         The property was in a quiet area - the hot tub encouraged noise.

     

    d)      In response to a question regarding the installation of a window pane with opaque glass to reduce overlooking and the impact on neighbours' amenities, it was noted that a condition could be imposed to secure this.

     

    dd)    The proposal was modified to allow the application subject to the inclusion of a condition to install an opaque glass pane in the window.

     

    A vote was taken on the proposal. The proposal fell.

     

    e)      It was proposed to refuse the application on the grounds of overlooking, disturbance and the impact on the amenities of neighbouring properties

     

    The amendment was not seconded.

     

    f)          The Assistant Head of Planning and Environment suggested that an option of deferring the decision could be considered to hold further discussions with the applicant about the level of activity within the site, set a definite boundary and consider further modifications to mitigate the impact on neighbours.

     

    ff)         It was proposed and seconded to defer the decision to hold further discussions with the applicant.

     

    RESOLVED: To defer to conduct further discussions with the applicant

    - need to discuss the mitigation measures to reduce the development's impact on residential amenities in terms of disturbance and privacy

     

     

    Supporting documents:

    • Plas Coch, Penisarwaun, Caernarfon, Gwynedd, LL55 3PW, item 7. pdf icon PDF 167 KB
    • Plans, item 7. pdf icon PDF 3 MB