To consider
any questions the appropriate notice for which have
been given under Section 4.18 of the Constitution.
Minutes:
(The Cabinet Members'
written responses to the questions had been published in advance.)
1.
Question from Councillor Gwynfor Owen
If you
don't already know, a campaign has been started in Harlech by a woman called
Andrea Bowen to have a memorial to Catrin, daughter of Glyndŵr.
Catrin's story is extremely sad, and she was clearly a very brave woman.
May I
therefore ask whether the Council would be able to support in principle the
community campaign to erect a statue of Catrin, daughter of Owain Glyndŵr, in Harlech, given her direct historic
connection to the town through Harlech Castle, and the fact that there is
currently no public memorial recognising her sacrifice and role in Welsh
history?
Response
from the Cabinet Member for Economy and Community, Councillor Medwyn Hughes
Thank you
to the Councillor for his question. Harlech plays a prominent role in Welsh
history, and the story of Catrin, daughter of Owain Glyndŵr,
is significant in this history. I'm sure Cyngor Gwynedd would support in
principle a local campaign to interpret the story by creating a statue of
Catherine in Harlech. It would be an excellent opportunity to raise awareness
and promote the story for the children and young people of Gwynedd and for
visitors to the town and the Castle, which are of course part of a World
Heritage Site. I know that officers from the Economy and Community Department
are very willing to support the local group, and I'm sure other Council
services will also support the campaign to identify a suitable site for the
memorial.
Supplementary
Question from Councillor Gwynfor Owen
He thanked the member for the
response and looked forward to discussing the matter with the officers. He
believed that the Department would certainly agree that it was a good idea to
have a statue of the girl in north Wales as there were only a few memorials for
women across the whole of Wales.
Response
from the Cabinet Member for Economy and Community, Councillor Medwyn Hughes
The Cabinet Member agreed completely.
2.
Question from Councillor Beca Brown
A report
was published by Audit Wales in January 2021, assessing how successful or
otherwise Ffordd Gwynedd had been. A section of the
report titled “Culture – Empowerment, Trust and Leadership” warned of two
problems: that constructive challenge was being suppressed and that some
destructive challenge existed, often from those in authority — something that
undermines trust and prevents empowerment.
Both issues
contribute to the same systemic risk: a culture where concerns are not raised
effectively, where ideas are not shared safely, and where unsafe practices may
go unchallenged. Some of the consequences of such a culture were highlighted in
the Our Bravery Brought Justice report.
Given that
these concerns were raised in 2021 — two years before the arrest of Neil Foden
— what actions were taken at the time to improve trust and to develop a working
culture that empowers healthy and constructive challenge?
Response
from the Cabinet Member for Corporate Services, Councillor Llio Elenid Owen
Ffordd
Gwynedd is the term used to refer to our way of working here in Gwynedd. It
forms nine work streams which are part of the Organisational Development Plan.
There is an emphasis on putting the people of Gwynedd at the centre of
everything we do and looking at the service that is provided through the eyes
of the citizen.
A piece of
work was designed in collaboration with Audit Wales to look at how the culture
had embedded by 2020. The output of that work was a letter summarising the
situation.
Audit
Wales’s main finding in the letter was that:
"Ffordd Gwynedd is well rooted and driving cultural change,
however, there are some common barriers and misconceptions that are slowing
down the progress of Ffordd Gwynedd".
The work
carried out by Audit Wales was based on interviews with every Head of
Department and Director at the time. Among several constructive findings and
recommendations, destructive challenge was identified as one barrier:
“... to
feel empowered, you need to be able to trust those around you. They need to be
supportive and positive, even when challenging. A safe environment is key,
which is a safe space to experiment and explore ideas. A place where it is safe
to fail and learn, seeking support and input from colleagues. Clearly, at a
higher level in any organisation there is an inherent need to accept and
respond to challenge, it is part of the job. However, it must be done in a
constructive, supportive way or, otherwise it can be counterproductive. At
present, in the Council, there are examples where this relationship of trust
and constructive challenge does not exist; challenge is often described by some
people and perceived by others as destructive."
In response
to the Audit Office's letter, as a direct result of these comments, specific
steps were taken by Council officers during 2021 to strengthen trust, and to
further develop culture.
Following
the appointment of a new Chief Executive in May 2021, one of the first steps he
took was to try to ensure that each challenge was constructive in nature. The
ethos of the Departmental Performance Challenge meetings was changed to one
where there was a culture and emphasis of "Challenge and Support".
This change supported two basic principles:
1. Healthy and constructive challenge, based on clear evidence and
leadership; and
2. Supporting performance by strengthening management skills,
ensuring consistency, and fostering an approach that is focused on development
rather than criticism.
Since then,
the new arrangements have become part of the Council's governance arrangements.
In
addition:
1.
The
training pack for Managers has been reviewed ensuring that it includes
promoting the culture of constructive challenge. (Similar training was given to
Elected Members following the May 2022 election.)
2.
The
Audit Wales letter was submitted to the Governance and Audit Committee in July
2021 and a Task and Finish Group of Committee Members was established to work
with the Chief Executive and Corporate Director to undertake an in-depth Review
of how the way of working was developing throughout.
3.
The
Review included an assessment by each Departmental Management Team of how their
department was implementing the way of working.
4.
The
conclusions of the Review were reported to the Education and Economy Scrutiny
Committee in October 2022 with a number of
recommendations on how to continue to develop the way of working.
The
findings of this Review were discussed at the January 2023 meeting of the
Council's Leadership Team and again when adopting a new version of the Ffordd Gwynedd Plan for 2023-28 at the Cabinet meeting in
March 2023.
Several
comments were made by the Cabinet Members at the time about different elements
of Ffordd Gwynedd including equality, working with
external partners and the importance of looking at the Council's services
through the eyes of users.
We are now
halfway through the plan that was adopted in 2023, and it is the Chief
Executive's intention to undertake a further review of progress over the coming
months. Reviewing and checking organisational culture is something that should
happen continually, especially following the publication of the Our Bravery
Brought Justice report.
The Our
Bravery Brought Justice report has shaken the whole Council and is very
relevant in the review of Ffordd Gwynedd. It will be
essential to secure Members' input into this Review, and we will be seeking
input from Audit Wales this time as well.
As always,
when discussing this important topic, it is the victims who are at the
forefront of our minds. I reiterate this Council's apologies to the victims and
all those who were affected by the crimes. Through the Plan and the Response
Board, actions are taking place to ensure that change happens, including change
to the Council's culture; this is the greatest tribute we can pay to the
courage of the victims.
Supplementary
Question from Councillor Beca Brown
Considering
that the Audit Wales 2021 letter raises concerns about organisational culture
that are relevant to the issues explored in the Our Bravery Brought Justice
report, and that this document does not appear to have been shared with the
child practice review, can you explain what evidence there is that the actions
you have stated, such as training and changes to performance challenge
meetings, have improved trust and people's ability to raise concerns safely.
Response
from the Cabinet Member for Corporate Services, Councillor Llio Elenid Owen
Cyngor
Gwynedd complied and co-operated fully with the child practice review, detailed
and thorough chronologies were prepared and hundreds
of documents were shared with them. Background information was also shared in
response to further requests as the review progressed. We accept all
recommendations put forward by Our Bravery Brought Justice and are determined
to act on all of these through the Response Plan. Trust is something extremely
difficult to measure as has been mentioned in the answer. A review of Ffordd Gwynedd is in the pipeline following Our Bravery
Brought Justice, and members will have the opportunity to be part of that
review.
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