To consider
whether the revised Compact provides a robust foundation for a more consistent,
effective and collaborative relationship between Cyngor Gwynedd and the Third
Sector.
Decision:
To accept the
report.
To recommend
that the Cabinet approves the Compact provided that they
· provide a
supporting action plan setting out responsibilities, timelines, resources,
success measures and reporting arrangements
· submit a
regular report to the Scrutiny Committee every 2 years.
Minutes:
The report was presented by the Cabinet Member for Adults, Health and
Well-being. Referring to the report, it was highlighted that the third sector
was vital to the work of various services and departments across the Council,
and an integral element of the work of supporting residents in Gwynedd. It was
noted that the Compact set a framework for the relationship between Cyngor
Gwynedd and the Third Sector. It was noted that the Third Sector included a
wide range of charities, voluntary organisations, social enterprises and
community groups who made a significant contribution to the well-being of the
people of Gwynedd and provide services that complement the Council's work.
It was explained that the new framework for the relationship was
essential to provide effective services to the people of Gwynedd. There was pride regarding the close relationship with the third
sector, which supports effective provision for the benefit of Gwynedd
communities.
As part of the Compact, it was noted that the Council and the Third
Sector had a key role to play in working together and developing and promoting
social and community enterprises. It was noted that the Council was working
very closely with Mantell Gwynedd to develop the Compact. It was ensured that
the developmental conversations regarding the third sector took place with the
help of Mantell Gwynedd to ensure an active and efficient relationship.
It was acknowledged that there were ongoing challenges with
collaboration with external agencies, and it was highlighted that the Compact
agreement supported the establishment of values and principles of collaboration
within the relationship to empower communities and place Gwynedd residents
first. It was ensured that the Council had been consulted extensively and had
received a great deal of feedback, which was incorporated in the Compact
document.
Members had the opportunity to comment and submit questions;
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It was asked whether
specific examples of problems raised with the arrangements under the previous
Compact agreement could be provided, and how the new Compact agreement would
address these problems and challenges? In response, it was acknowledged that it
was a challenging task to give specific examples without drawing public
attention to some problems that had arisen between some agencies. However, it
was explained that disagreements had arisen over the years for reasons such as
funding, available grants and provision. It was explained that frustration had
arisen in relation to the Council's ability to provide long-term and short-term
funding, from the third sector. It was noted that the long-term plans of the
third sector were often limited due to a lack of long-term funding.
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It was asked what would be
different for third sector organisations and for the residents of Gwynedd as a result of the adoption of this Compact compared to the
old Compact? In response, it was ensured that the new Compact sets objectives
to seek to fund third sector organisations better and prioritised financial
support to ensure better sustainable provision for the community. It was noted
that the new Compact was an opportunity to renew the relationship since the new
well-being of the future laws were enabled and an opportunity for the Council
to prioritise the relationship with the third sector to deliver consistent and
successful provision. The officers who had worked on the renewal of the Compact
were thanked and it was noted that it had made it much easier to understand and
more accessible to all. It was believed that this would ultimately improve the
relationship setting out clear expectations from the agreement which would lay
a solid foundation for future efficient working.
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Reference was made to how
the Compact aimed to enable residents and communities to thrive. It was noted
that it offered a measure of success through broad questions such as 'have the
partnerships strengthened a culture of collaboration'. It was also asked how
the Council would measure this if it happened as a direct result of improving
the arrangements? It was also asked what specific indicators would be used to
illustrate this improvement? In response to the questions, it was ensured that the
Compact sets the groundwork for empowering communities by strengthening the
relationship and setting expectations between the agencies. It was also
admitted that they were challenging questions to answer, noting that it was
challenging to establish measures and indicators. It was ensured that the
outcomes of the Third Sector Compact could be seen across the Council and
across county services, through the consequential support of the relationship. It
was noted that fewer people were waiting for domiciliary care services, and
transport continued to improve provision. It was noted that the department
would consider developing indicators and measures jointly with the third sector
and would come back to the committee with any developments.
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A Member asked how the
council would ensure that the third sector liaison group was not dominated by
larger organisations with greater capacity to participate? It was asked what arrangements
were in place to ensure that organisations not represented on the group, had
the opportunity to influence decisions? In response to this, it was ensured
that this had not previously been an issue with the Compact. It was noted that
all agencies had a fair opportunity to be involved in the developing
discussions, and it was ensured that there was a broad representation of the
different sectors within the third sector and that they took their responsibilities
seriously. In response to an enquiry, it was ensured that representatives from
all third sector organisations were invited to be part of the liaison group.
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Attention was drawn to the
concerns of Audit Wales about missed opportunities in relation to social
enterprises and it was asked what evidence would indicate that Gwynedd was
making better use of social enterprises and community organisations compared to
previous years. In response to this, this work was identified as arising from
the concerns raised by Audit Wales and designating duties to the council and
third sector organisations. It was elaborated that Mantell Gwynedd had been a
key part of the development of the Compact to ensure the effectiveness of the
scheme. It was ensured that Mantell Gwynedd used recognised methods of
measuring the success of community enterprises which also assisted Council
departments with developing similar systems.
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During the discussion,
reference was made to the fact that there were tens of third sector
organisations in Gwynedd that were not incorporated in the Compact as well as
many unofficial groups that come together to get things organised and provide a
lot of support to the community. They were thanked for their work, recognising
that there was much more to be done to support the small organisations to
ensure they can provide a service and support safely within the community.
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Commenting on the Third
Sector Liaison Group, reference was made to the way in which Mantell Gwynedd
worked jointly with Third Sector organisations to select suitable
representatives for membership of the Liaison Group. It was asked how Council
representatives would be selected from service areas related to the third
sector. In response, it was confirmed that a combination of officers and
Cabinet Members and Members would be representatives on the group.
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It was asked who inspected
the county's extra care homes? Dissatisfaction was expressed with the fact that
the provider was being inspected and not the home and the service itself. It
was expressed that it was extremely important that the Council therefore
inspected the individual organisations within the county to ensure an
acceptable standard of care and support for Gwynedd residents. In response to
the comments, it was clarified that responsibility for individuals remained
with the Council, even when individuals enter a third sector support home. It
was ensured that constant supervision continued to ensure that the service was
of good quality, through regular meetings and close relationships with the
social workers. This was elaborated on, noting that the Council worked very
closely with organisations such as Seren and Anheddau,
and constantly monitors the provision with officers visiting and inspecting the
establishments.
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Referring to Audit Wales' note that local authorities were
in a position to do more to maximise the impact of the third sector,
ensure better value for money, it was asked who would be responsible for this
and would monitor how the money would be spent? In response to this, it was
clarified that data would be reported regularly and Mantell Gwynedd would
assist the Council in ensuring value for money. It was explained that a large number of contracts go through the commissioning
unit which secured, measured and monitored the impacts of the services to
ensure value for money. It was suggested that it would be beneficial for a
representative from Mantell Gwynedd to attend the committee next time during
the discussion on the Compact Agreement.
To accept the report.
To recommend that the Cabinet approves the Compact
provided that they
• Provide a supporting action plan setting out
responsibilities, timelines, resources, success measures and reporting
arrangements
• Submit a regular report to the Scrutiny Committee
every 2 years.
Supporting documents: