Tŷ Castell, 18 Stryd Fawr, Caernarfon
To consider the above application
Minutes:
The panel and the
officers were introduced to everyone that was present and it was announced that
everyone had up to 10 minutes to share their observations on the application.
On
behalf of the premises: Mr Roland Evans (applicant)
Others
invited: Ffion
Muscroft (Environmental Health Officer, Public Protection - Gwynedd Council)
a)
The report and recommendation of the Licensing Section
Submitted – the
report of the Licensing Manager giving details of the application for a
premises licence for Tŷ Castell, 18 High Street, Caernarfon in relation to
the supply of alcohol, live and recorded music and late night refreshments. It
was highlighted that the recorded music was only intended as background music
and that the live music was occasional, acoustic music. A request was also made
for permission to serve late night refreshments and alcohol on bank holidays.
Attention was drawn to the proposed hours in the report. It was noted that
the Officers of the Licensing Authority had sufficient evidence that the
application had been submitted in accordance with the requirements of the
Licensing Act 2003 and the relevant regulations.
Reference was made to measures recommended by the applicant to promote the
licensing objectives along with the responses that had been received during the
consultation period.
It was noted that
two letters had been received objecting to the application on the basis of the
licensing objective of preventing public nuisance. Attention was drawn to
observations submitted by Gwynedd Council’s Planning Department and
observations and recommendations of the Gwynedd Council Environmental Health
Officer. It was highlighted that discussions had been held with the applicants
and the Environmental Health Officer and that there was agreement now to reduce
the hours of licensable activities and to accept noise conditions as part of
the licence.
b)
In considering the
application, the following procedure was followed:-
·
Members of the
Sub-committee and the applicant were given an opportunity to ask questions of
the Licensing Manager.
·
The applicant was invited
to expand on the application
·
Consultees were given an
opportunity to submit their observations
·
The licensee, or his
representative, was invited to respond to the observations
·
Members of the
Sub-committee were given an opportunity to ask questions of the licensee.
·
Members of the
Sub-committee were given an opportunity to ask questions of the consultees.
c)
In response to the report, the Licensing Officer
was asked if the objectors were aware of the change to the opening hours. The
applicant noted that he had discussed the reduction in opening hours with one
of the objectors and consequently the objector had welcomed this decision.
d)
In expanding on the
application, the applicant noted that he was happy with what had been submitted
and the following observations were added:
·
That developing Tŷ Castell had been an
opportunity to realise a vision
·
That the building had been empty since 1994 - and
was a Grade 2 listed building by Cadw. Renovating the building would
lead to rejuvenating part of the town
·
The intention was to create a tapas restaurant with
a Welsh feel - with good quality wines and beers and a 5-bedroom boutique hotel
employing up to seven people. It was intended to promote the Welsh language and
use local produce
·
Food orders would finish at 9:30pm with the
intention of closing the kitchen at 10:30pm and closing the restaurant at midnight.
·
It was not intended to have a noisy bar - there was
a need to address the expectations and needs of the guests.
·
The flexibility of the licence hours had now been
adapted to be realistic
·
Had received support and enthusiasm from local
people
·
Had attended a course to
obtain a personal Licence
In response to a
question regarding the inability to open the restaurant windows, it was noted
that an air-conditioning system had been installed in the kitchen, cellar,
toilets, kitchen and bathrooms as well as large windows in the bedrooms for
fresh air. In addition, in the context of noise, it was emphasised that light
acoustic music only would be played on a small scale e.g. at a cd or book
launch.
In response to a
comment regarding waste disposal, it was noted that a condition had been
included by the Public Protection Service noting that it would not be possible
to dispose of bottles or cans outside the licensed premises between 22:00 and
08:00. The applicant added that they had a licence which allowed them to keep
waste in a courtyard at the rear of the County Council offices.
A request was made
that the applicant ensured that the CCTV system was serviced regularly and that
clear, good quality photographs would be available to the Police and the Licensing
Service if required.
Letters received stating an objection to the
application from RG and SF Coclough and Nia Dryhurst were acknowledged.
The Environmental Health Officer noted that the Department was happy with
the agreement to reduce the hours and for the conditions to be included on the
licence.
e)
When considering the
application, all the evidence submitted was considered, and particular
attention was given to the principles of the Licensing Act 2003
• Crime and Disorder
• Public Safety
• Preventing Public
Nuisance
• Protection of
Children from Harm
RESOLVED to approve
the application subject to the earlier hours and proposed conditions in terms
of controlling noise and lighting:
The licence was
issued as follows:
1. Approve live music
indoors (section E of the application) on Monday between 12:00 and 00:00, from
Tuesday to Thursday between 18:00 and 00:00, from Friday to Saturday between
12:00 and 00:00 and on Sunday between 12:00 and 22:00.
2. Approve recorded
music indoors (section F) from Monday to Saturday between 08:00 and 00:00 and
on Sunday between 08:00 and 22:00.
3. Approve indoor
entertainment which falls within section H of the application, from Monday to
Saturday between 18:00 and 00:00, and on Sunday between 18:00 and 22:00.
4. Approve late night
refreshments indoors (section I) from Monday to Saturday between 23:00 and
00:00.
5. Approve the supply
of alcohol to be consumed on and off the premises (section J) from Monday to
Saturday between 11:00 and 00:00 and on Sunday between 11:00 and 22:00.
6. Opening hours to
the public from Monday to Saturday are between 08:00 and 00:30 and on Sunday
between 08:00 and 22:30.
7. In relation to all
the above-mentioned licensable activities, an extension of 1 hour is granted
for the non-standard times, including evenings before bank holidays and bank
holidays.
8. The issues that
were included in section M of the application (i.e. the operating schedule) are
included as conditions on the licence.
9. For clarity, a
condition will be added to keep CCTV clips for at least 28 days and for these
to be provided on request to the Licensing Authority and the Police.
10.
The noise control and lighting control conditions
suggested by Environmental Health and agreed to by the applicants will be
added.
When considering
the objectors' observations, who expressed concern that granting the licence
would lead to an increase in people leaving the premises late at night and that
this would be relevant to the licensing objective of preventing public
nuisance, no explanation or evidence was provided in relation to how an
increase in people would necessarily result in an increase in public nuisance.
Several people in one place in itself was not evidence of public nuisance.
Noise or rubbish problems or similar problems could, in principle, result in
public nuisance, but this was not the basis for the observations submitted.
When considering
the objectors' observations, who expressed concern that granting the licence
would lead to an increase in noise problems late at night, the Sub-committee accepted
that noise could, in principle, be relevant to the licensing objective of
preventing public nuisance, but the observations were considered to be
hypothetical. No evidence was submitted stating that a noise problem tantamount
to public nuisance would likely happen should the licence be granted.
It was noted that
Environmental Health had submitted observations confirming that there was no
objection to the application, but a series of conditions in terms of
controlling noise and lighting was recommended. The Sub-committee accepted that
there was agreement between the applicants and the service for these conditions
to be included on the licence, should the licence be approved.
For information,
it was added that observations in relation to cumulative impact were
disregarded. It was reported that the Council did not have a cumulative impact
policy and therefore it was beyond the authority of the Sub-committee to make a
decision in terms of introducing such a policy. It would be the responsibility
of the Central Licensing Committee to decide to introduce a cumulative impact
policy, following evidence which would justify creating a policy.
The Solicitor
reported that the decision would be formally confirmed to everyone present by
letter. He also notified that they had the right to appeal the decision within
21 days of receiving the letter.
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