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    Llŷn A.O.N.B Joint Advisory Committee - Thursday, 27th June, 2024 4.00 pm

    • Attendance details
    • Agenda frontsheet PDF 179 KB
    • Agenda reports pack PDF 1 MB
    • Printed decisions PDF 146 KB
    • Printed minutes PDF 183 KB

    Venue: Cyfarfod Rhithiol / Virtual Meeting. View directions

    Contact: Sioned Mai Jones  01286 679665

    Items
    No. Item

    1.

    ELECT CHAIR

    To elect a Chair for 2024/25.

    Decision:

    To elect Councillor T. Victor Jones (Llanbedrog Community Council) as Chair of the Llŷn AONB Advisory Joint Committee for the year 2024/25. ⁠⁠

    Minutes:

    It was resolved to elect T. Victor Jones (Llanbedrog Community Council) as Chair for 2024/25.

     

    2.

    ELECT VICE-CHAIR

    To elect a Vice-chair for 2024/25.

    Decision:

    To elect Sian Parri (Tudweiliog Community Council) as Vice-chair ⁠of the Llŷn AONB Joint Advisory Committee for the year 2024/25.

    Minutes:

    It was resolved to elect T. Victor Jones (Llanbedrog Community Council) as Chair for 2024/25.

     

    3.

    APOLOGIES

    To receive apologies for absence.

    Minutes:

    Apologies were received from Councillor John Brynmor Hughes, ⁠Einir Wyn (Llanengan Community Council), Rhian Sanson (Nefyn Town Council), ⁠Dewi Evans (Aberdaron Community Council), Eirian Allport ⁠(Clynnog Fawr Community Council), ⁠Gillian Walker (Cyfeillion Llŷn) and Andrew Davidson who had just retired from Gwynedd Archaeology (Jenny Emmett will now represent Gwynedd Archaeology on the Committee).

     

    4.

    DECLARATION OF PERSONAL INTEREST

                To receive any declaration of personal interest.

    Minutes:

    There were no declarations of personal interest.

     

    5.

    URGENT ITEMS

    To note any items that are a matter of urgency in the view of the Chairman for consideration.

    Minutes:

    None to note.

     

    6.

    MINUTES pdf icon PDF 156 KB

    The Chair shall propose that the minutes of this committee, held on 22 November, 2023, be signed as a true record.

    Minutes:

    The Chair signed the minutes of the previous meeting of this Joint Committee, that took place on 22 November 2023, as a true record.

     

    7.

    A NEW IMAGE FOR AONB'S pdf icon PDF 93 KB

    To further consider the matter.

    Additional documents:

    • Appendix A , item 7. pdf icon PDF 93 KB

    Decision:

    a)    To accept the report and note the observations received.

    b)     To reiterate the decision made at the previous meeting of the Joint Committee on 22 November 2023 not to adopt the new national title and logo for 'National Landscapes'.

    Minutes:

    John Watkins, Chief Executive of the National Landscapes Association, was welcomed to the meeting and the Joint Advisory Committee was reminded of the discussion back in November 2023 about creating a new brand and image for the Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty designation. Reference was made to the recommendation to change the operational name from 'Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty' to 'National Landscapes'. It was reported that the name 'National Landscapes' was being used in England and Wales, noting that the Welsh Government had expressed support to this change.

     

    The Chief Executive of the National Landscapes Association stated that this change had been in the making for seven years following a period of intensive review and research. He noted that the Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty designations were supposed to be as good as the National Parks in terms of their quality (albeit a different designation) and reported that this change to the brand and name was an attempt to raise awareness nationally of the importance of these landscapes. It was believed that this would assist in attracting resources to the designations, and he reminded all that they were national designations being managed locally.

     

    ⁠He noted that all the landscapes in England and many in Wales were now using the new name and brand, which respected how unique the individual landscapes were but recognised that they were part of a wider family. Support was expressed to what the Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty were trying to achieve. It was believed that it was important for local decisions and considerations to appear as part of a national family and that this would be beneficial in expanding their profile. To conclude, he reported on the input he had received on the new branding, noting that he had received very positive comments.

     

    The following observations were made by members: -

    ·       It was noted that the National Landscapes website was in English and that the Welsh Government logo was on the website. The member expressed strong dissatisfaction that the website was not bilingual.

    ·       They argued that we needed to protect the Welsh language and expressed that the Welsh language would not be treated fairly by the National Landscapes Association.

    ·       Keen to highlight that Wales was a separate nation, and it was believed that rejecting this change would achieve this.

    ·       A member expressed a view that it might be worth adopting the new name and brand if doing so would strengthen the profile of the AONB here in Llŷn. It was recognised that the Welsh language was very important – would it be possible to translate the National Landscapes website so that it was bilingual?

    ·       It was believed that the current Llŷn AONB name and logo were memorable and attractive, and that the name 'National Landscapes' suggested England and Wales. It was expressed that 'Wales Landscapes' would be a better name if  ...  view the full minutes text for item 7.

    8.

    UPDATE ON LLŶN AONB CAPITAL PROJECTS pdf icon PDF 127 KB

    To inform and update members on the Llŷn AONB Capital Projects.

    Decision:

    To accept the report and note the observations received. ⁠

    Minutes:

    The report was submitted by the Llŷn AONB Projects Officer for information to the members, to update them on Llŷn AONB's capital projects. It was explained that Sustainable Landscapes, Sustainable Places (SLSP) was a grant scheme by the Welsh Government to support capital projects in the National Parks and the AONB.

     

    It was confirmed that the projects covered a three-year period (2022-25). The officer reported on the themes of the capital projects that had been set by the Welsh Government, namely Biodiversity and nature recovery, Decarbonisation, Resilient and green communities and Sustainable Tourism.

     

    Updates on the Llŷn SLSP capital projects were provided in the report, projects such as:

     

    ·       Renewing the stairway at Porth Ysgo

    ·       Mynytho, Horeb and Rhos Botwnnog Common Lands

    ·       Native Trees

    ·       Alien invasive species

    ·       Canolfan Llithfaen

    ·       Car park at Llanbedrog Quarry

    ·       Joint Projects – Traditional Boundaries, the Dark Sky and an Education Pack.

     

    A member enquired about the Alien invasive species project, noting that alien plants could be seen in locations such as Garn Boduan and Tre'r Ceiri. Reference was made to the Native Trees project, and it was asked whether the AONB officers held discussions with Cadw before planting trees. There was concern that the planting was taking place in archaeologically sensitive areas. It was confirmed that the AONB Unit planned to carry out archaeology reviews soon before planting trees. It was suggested that there may be grants available from Cadw, and the Officers were asked to share updates about the planting with the Gwynedd Archaeology representative so that she could contribute.

     

    The members enquired further about the areas of tree planting, and the scale of planting. It was noted that they intended to look further at the sites within lands that were owned by Cyngor Gwynedd, but the Ysgol Botwnnog site looked very promising. They did not intend to plant on all the sites. It was confirmed that grants could be provided to caravan site owners to plant trees through the Sustainable Development Fund. It was hoped to be able to consider projects similar to this in the next financial year.

     

    A member asked whether it would be possible to receive a summary or list of capital projects over the last three years to see what the projects were, in what area and how much capital had been provided in order to see the variety. This information was also requested about the Sustainable Development Fund. The Llŷn AONB Projects Officer would share the information.

     

    Members gave thanks for all the work and noted that very positive feedback had been received regarding the renewal of the Porth Ysgo steps. They also thanked the AONB Officers for the work on the centre at Llithfaen and noted that everyone was looking forward to the centre opening. A member enquired about the hall in Llanbedrog, reporting that the condition of the  ...  view the full minutes text for item 8.

    9.

    "PERTHYN" (BELONGING) PROJECT pdf icon PDF 85 KB

    To inform members on the “Perthyn” project.

    Additional documents:

    • Appendix B , item 9. pdf icon PDF 174 KB

    Decision:

     

    a)     To accept the information.

    b)     To hold another meeting to discuss the matter.

     

    Minutes:

    It was reported that this item had been included on the Agenda at the request of the Tudweiliog Community Council member. It was noted that three Community Councils in Llŷn had decided to designate their areas as Areas of Linguistic Significance in December 2023, with a view to sustaining and strengthening the Welsh language in Llŷn following concerns about the influences of second homes, holiday homes and tourism. It was reported that other Community Councils had now joined the project.

     

    It was explained that it might be possible to vary public policy and action in favour of the Welsh language in the areas that had been designated as Areas of Linguistic Significance. This was mentioned in the Welsh Communities Commission's position paper.

     

    A verbal report was given on the work of the Perthyn project by the representative of Tudweiliog Community Council, and members agreed to accept the information. After a lengthy discussion, it was proposed to re-include the item on the Agenda of the next meeting of the Joint Advisory Committee when the report would be ready and had been shared with all members of the Joint Committee.

     

              DECISION

     

    a)    To accept the information.

    b)    To hold another meeting to discuss the matter.

     

    10.

    AONB MANAGEMENT PLAN pdf icon PDF 101 KB

    To inform members on the AONB Management Plan.

    Minutes:

    We ran out of time before reaching this item. The item will be included on the agenda of the next meeting of the Llŷn AONB Joint Advisory Committee.

     

     

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