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  • Agenda and minutes

    Language Committee - Tuesday, 24th April, 2018 10.30 am

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    • Printed minutes PDF 74 KB

    Venue: Siambr Hywel Dda - Council Offices, Caernarfon. View directions

    Contact: Sioned Williams  01286 679729

    Items
    No. Item

    1.

    APOLOGIES

    To receive apologies for absence.

    Minutes:

    Councillor Eric M. Jones.

     

    2.

    DECLARATION OF PERSONAL INTEREST

    To receive any declaration of personal interest

    Minutes:

    No declarations of personal interest were received from any members present.

    3.

    URGENT BUSINESS

    To note any items that are a matter of urgency in the view of the Chairman for consideration

    Minutes:

    No urgent items were received.

     

    4.

    MINUTES pdf icon PDF 314 KB

    The Chairman shall propose that the minutes of the previous meeting of this committee held on 27 February 2018, be signed as a true record (attached).

    Minutes:

    The Chair signed the minutes of the previous committee meeting held on 27 February 2018, as a true record.

     

    5.

    LANGUAGE STRATEGY CONSULTATION pdf icon PDF 226 KB

    Additional documents:

    • Welsh Language Promotion Plan for Gwynedd 2018-2023 , item 5. pdf icon PDF 802 KB
    • Consultation Questions , item 5. pdf icon PDF 502 KB

    Minutes:

    A draft version of the Language Strategy, 'Welsh Language Promotion Plan for Gwynedd 2018-2023', was presented by the Welsh Language Services Manager. It was noted that the public consultation period on the strategy had started, and that it would end on 5 June 2018. It was noted that comments, amendments or suggestions from any individuals or organisations would be welcomed for consideration. The final strategy would be submitted to the Cabinet and Full Council in October 2018, with an action plan that would be prepared during the summer.

    During the ensuing discussion, responses were provided to a number of questions/observations from individual members in relation to:

    §  Linguistic and mutation errors in the strategy.

    §  There were no actions included in the strategy explaining what would happen, who was responsible, and how progress would be measured.  

    §  Some Council decisions were contrary to a number of the objectives contained in the strategy e.g. the closure of youth clubs that promoted the use of the Welsh language among young people.

     

    Members were guided through the Language Strategy consultation questions. During the discussion, responses were provided to a number of questions/observations from individual members in relation to:

    A summary of the current situation and challenges

    §  The 'Stealth English' that stemmed from the technology/electronic devices that were used in schools - could this be addressed? 

    §  Gwynedd Council was one of the only organisations in Wales that was progressive in its translation of 'apps', the provision of Welsh language technology, and provision of bilingual meetings - why did the government not contribute funding to support this exceptional work?

    §  Was it fair to encourage young people 'to be community leaders by organising events in their communities' when the Council was withdrawing the facilities and funding to do this?

     

    Priority 1: The Language of the Home

    §  Language transfer was weak among lone parent families - was it possible to have a specific strategy to address this matter?

    §  Language transfer was weak in families where only the father spoke Welsh. The message that fathers had an important role in ensuring that their children grew up bilingually needed to be strengthened.

    §  A suggestion to establish new immersion centres in areas where a high percentage of children were late-comers to the Welsh language.

    §  Was it possible to combine the language of the home vision with the aim of the Language Charter?

     

    Priority 2: The Language of Learning

    §  There was a need to provide secondary school pupils with a clear message that the Welsh language was a qualification for both the public and private sectors, which could lead to further future employment opportunities.

     

    Priority 3: The Language of Work and Services

    §  The workplace was a powerful place to promote the use of Welsh - it was important to expand the workplaces that operated entirely in Welsh.

    §  Was it possible to influence major banks, supermarkets and energy companies to offer more language choices?

    §  It was important to ensure that the  ...  view the full minutes text for item 5.

    6.

    A REPORT OF THE COUNCIL'S POLICY ON PLACE NAMES pdf icon PDF 235 KB

    Additional documents:

    • Pwyllgor Iaith Cymraeg_EAT , item 6. pdf icon PDF 290 KB

    Minutes:

    The Corporate Services Project Manager presented a research paper, outlining the Authority's statutory duties and rights in respect of naming, recording and promoting house, street and place names in Gwynedd. It was noted that the matter had been the subject of a number of complaints to the Committee over recent years, and that the research paper's purpose was to provide a clearer understanding of the situation. Members were requested to consider the research results and recommendations, and offer their views on the appropriate next steps.

    During the ensuing discussion, responses were provided to a number of questions/observations from individual members in relation to:

    §  Did the Council have the right to insist upon Welsh names for new estates?

    §  Who was responsible for naming houses, developments and streets owned by the Council?

    §  New developments were often more likely to be given Welsh names, could this point be emphasised? 

    §  The matter caused concern, not only the naming of houses and streets, but also the naming of fields, rocks, or parts of mountains. Was it possible to seek funding to install a plaque on them noting the correct names, in order to promote the Welsh names?

    RESOLVED:  To agree to continue to work on the main purpose of the report, to gain clarity, especially on the naming of geographic features and how we could influence the names used by external bodies such as the Royal Mail and the Ordnance Survey, and report back to the Committee on any developments.

     

    7.

    TAN20 PRESENTATION - PLANNING DEPARTMENT

    Minutes:

    The Committee received a presentation on Technical Advice Note 20: Planning and the Welsh language (TAN 20) following a request by the Chair, and the concern that the guidance from the government on the matter was ambiguous and weak.  It was noted that the new TAN 20 had been published since October 2017, and the similarities/differences between this version and the previous version were highlighted. The weaknesses of the new version were discussed, and the implications for the planning areas of Gwynedd and Anglesey.

     

    It was explained that a response had already been sent to the Government in December on behalf of the Plaid Cymru Group to express concern and dissatisfaction that the Government had ignored the observations of Gwynedd and Anglesey Councils, and had failed to:

    §  offer a definition of areas of linguistic sensitivity;

    §  provide guidance on the language assessment.

     

    It was reported that a response had been received from the Minister, Lesley Griffiths AM, noting that Local Authorities were free to expand upon national policy and develop their own guidance to respond to local needs. It therefore placed the responsibility in the hands of the Local Authority to determine what was appropriate for its area. 

     

    Members were asked whether they wished to send further correspondence on the matter to the Government on behalf of the Language Committee, or whether they were happy to wait for the outcome of the development of the Supplementary Planning Guidance, and receive an update at the next Committee meeting.

     

    RESOLVED: to leave the item on the agenda for an update at the next meeting.

     

    8.

    GRIEVANCES AND INVESTIGATIONS

    Minutes:

    There were no complaints or investigations to note.