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  • Agenda, decisions and minutes

    Language Committee - Thursday, 12th November, 2020 10.00 am

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    • Printed minutes PDF 199 KB

    Venue: Cyfarfod Rhithiol / Virtual Meeting. View directions

    Contact: Lowri Haf Evans  Email: lowrihafevans@gwynedd.llyw.cymru 01286 679 878

    Items
    No. Item

    1.

    ELECT CHAIR

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    To elect a Chair for this committee for 2020/2021

    Decision:

    Councillor Elin Walker Jones was elected as Chair of this Committee for the 2020/21 period

     

    Minutes:

    Councillor Elin Walker Jones was elected as Chair of this Committee for the 2020/21 period

     

    2.

    ELECT VICE CHAIR

    To elect a Vice chair for this committee for 2020/2021

    Decision:

    Councillor Cai Larsen was elected as Vice-chair of this Committee for the 2020/21 period

     

    Minutes:

    Councillor Cai Larsen was elected as Vice-chair of this Committee for the 2020/21 period

     

    3.

    APOLOGIES

    To receive apologies for absence.

    Minutes:

    Apologies were received from Councillor John Pughe Roberts

     

    4.

    DECLARATION OF PERSONAL INTEREST

    To receive any declaration of personal interest

    Minutes:

    No declarations of personal interest were received from any members present.

     

    5.

    URGENT BUSINESS

    To note any items that are a matter of urgency in the view of the Chairman for consideration

    Minutes:

    No urgent items were received.

     

    6.

    MINUTES pdf icon PDF 241 KB

    The Chairman shall propose that the minutes of the previous meeting of this committee held on the 16th of January 2020 be signed as a true record

    Minutes:

    The Chair signed the minutes of the previous meeting of this committee, held on 20 October 2020, as a true record.

     

    7.

    AN OVERVIEW OF THE IMPACT OF COVID 19 ON SERVICES AND ACTIVITIES HELD THROUGH THE MEDIUM OF WELSH pdf icon PDF 474 KB

    To consider the report

    Additional documents:

    • Hunaniaith Projects April –September 2020 , item 7. pdf icon PDF 445 KB

    Decision:

    -       To accept the report with thanks to the Welsh Language Officers for their work during this time

    -       To write a letter to the Welsh Language Commissioner expressing concern that it is not always possible for Gwynedd Council staff to contribute in Welsh in virtual meetings arranged by outside organisations as they do not provide simultaneous translation service provision for virtual meetings.

    -       To write a letter to Microsoft encouraging them to provide simultaneous translation via Teams

    -       To receive an update on the work of the National Sub-group which discusses information technology issues at the next meeting.

     

    Minutes:

    Submitted - a report by the Senior Language and Scrutiny Advisor summarising the opportunities and challenges that various departments have faced in relation to continuing to implement the language policy due to Covid 19. An update was also provided on various projects that had been delivered despite the situation, in order to promote and increase the use of Welsh in Gwynedd.

     

    It was reported that, in general, everyone noted that the virus had not affected their ability to provide Welsh-medium services, as they had adapted their methods of service provision, and had continued to offer Welsh language services. However, some noted that there was a possibility of missing the informal opportunities to converse in Welsh in the office, on the corridor or in the kitchen, particularly those who did not have an opportunity to speak much Welsh outside the workplace. In response, it was noted that the Welsh Buddy Scheme offered those informal opportunities for Welsh learners to maintain their momentum while working from home as well as additional sessions of on-line training which had been positive.

    It was explained that one concern highlighted in the survey was that it was not always possible for staff to contribute in Welsh in external virtual meetings that had been organised by other organisations as they did not use technology that enabled the easy use of simultaneous translation services. It was noted that not all external organisations currently provided a simultaneous translation service for virtual meetings, and some were unwilling to use Zoom due to security concerns.

     

    During the ensuing discussion, the following observations were made by Members:

    ·         That public bodies in Wales were required to provide a Translation service at meetings - that provision was available to do so - and that the Language Commissioner's attention should be drawn to the problem.

    ·         A suggestion to hold a quiz to promote opportunities to practise speaking Welsh

    ·         It would be beneficial to receive information about the number who had attended / contributed to on-line events.

    ·         Put pressure on Microsoft and campaign to include a simultaneous translation resource on Teams (which was favoured by other Councils)

    ·         Welsh was developing as a contemporary, modern medium in technology and used among young people - needed to take advantage of this

    ·         Needed assurance that the 'Track and Trace' service was available in Welsh

    In response to the observations, it was noted that the Language Commissioner was aware of the obstacles regarding providing simultaneous translation at meetings. It was noted that a national sub-group had been set up to seek solutions. It was also noted that Gwynedd Council was sharing good practice with Councils and Partnerships to improve the provision if they were not allowed to use Zoom. It was proposed that an update be given on the work of the sub-group at the next meeting.

    In response to maintaining momentum with Welsh lessons, it was noted that a 'Cymraeg i Gefnogi' scheme had been established which was very successful.

    In response to a question regarding the  ...  view the full minutes text for item 7.

    8.

    WELSH LANGUAGE STANDARDS AND THE COUNCIL'S WELSH LANGUAGE POLICY pdf icon PDF 325 KB

    To consider the report

    Decision:

    To accept the report

     

    Minutes:

    This report was submitted by the Language Advisor providing a brief update on work that had been going on over the past few months in respect of the Language Standards and the reporting duties. It was noted that, overall, the Service continued to be successful in complying with the requirements of the Standards, but there were some areas of concern arising, and definite themes did come up which provided specific work fields. It was reported that the Service had been proactive in liaising with the Commissioner during the past year, for the purposes of discussing some issues of importance and concern, such as the barriers we face when commissioning external systems and apps. It was added that, by having an open conversation, it was hoped to be able to develop a mutual understanding and good collaboration which would have a positive impact when trying to influence external bodies that were sometimes ignorant to the status of the language and the Standards' requirements in Wales - the impact assessment template was an example of this.

     

    Reference was made to the challenges together with the developmental fields and attention was drawn to the skills report which expressed that the percentage able to speak Welsh within the Council was 'very high' with 99.1% meeting the requirements of the post. Further attention was drawn to the Language Commissioner's Assurance Report 2019-20 - Closing the Gap and that the report would be shared with the Members via e-mail. It was noted that it was intended to review the Language Policy in January as some clauses were not strong enough in some fields. It was noted that the work would be split into two categories - administrative changes, which mean minor changes to edit the wording, in order to make the requirements clearer and significant / principle changes which involve the need to discuss and seek agreement to implement in some contexts. It was reported that an item would be presented at the next meeting on the possible amendments to the Policy.

     

    Members expressed their thanks for the report.

     

    During the ensuing discussion, the following observations were made by Members:

     

    ·         That a Welsh image needed to be conveyed across the Council

    ·         A request for a language complaints report - a questionnaire on salt had been sent out to Highways Department staff in English only

    ·         That the use of social media was having an impact on the early years - a suggestion that this should be investigated

     

    In response to an observation regarding having Welsh as a 'default' on social websites, it was reported that research on the public's use of the website was being carried out by the website team and the communication unit. The Cabinet Member added that this was a technical challenge, but that the number of hits on the Welsh version of the website  ...  view the full minutes text for item 8.