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    Cambrian Coast Railway Liaison Committee - Friday, 3rd March, 2017 11.00 am

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    Venue: Y Ganolfan (ger yr Harbwr), Porthmadog

    Contact: Glynda O'Brien  (01341) 424301 Email: glyndaobrien@gwynedd.llyw.cymru

    Items
    No. Item

    1.

    APOLOGIES

    To receive any apologies for absence.

    Minutes:

    Apologies were received from Councillors John Brynmor Hughes, Angela Russell, Gethin Williams  Owain Williams (Gwynedd Council), Mr Tudur Williams (Head teacher of Ysgol Ardudwy), PC Rob Newman (British Transport Police), Liz Saville Roberts (MP for Dwyfor/Meirionnydd), David Roberts (Snowdonia National Park), Mr David Woodhouse (Aberdyfi and Tywyn Tourism), Mr Neil Hamilton (AM for Mid and

    2.

    DECLARATION OF PERSONAL INTEREST

    To receive any declaration of personal interest.

    Minutes:

    No declaration of personal interest was received from any member present.

    3.

    URGENT MATTERS

    To consider any business which the Chairman decides is urgent.

    Minutes:

    No urgent matters were received by the Chairman.

    4.

    MINUTES pdf icon PDF 250 KB

    To confirm the minutes of the previous meeting held on 11th November 2016.

     

    (Copy enclosed)

    Minutes:

    Submitted:     Minutes of the meeting of the conference held on the 11 November 2016. 

     

    Resolved:       To accept and approve the minutes.

     

    5.

    REPORT BY NETWORK RAIL

    To receive a report by Mr Sam Hadley, Network Rail.

    Minutes:

    Mr Sam Hadley, Wales Route Public Affairs Manager, Ms Sally Biggs and Mr James Widdowson were all welcomed to the meeting.

     

    (a) With regard to the urgent works to be carried out to the Barmouth Viaduct, Ms Sally Biggs stated that the work would be starting on 12th June until 14th July and would not affect the train traffic since the work would be carried out between 12.00 midnight and 5.00 a.m.  In response to a query from a member with regard to signage at each end of the Mawddach pathway, it was stated that there will probably be watchmen on duty at the site.

     

    It was further noted that these urgent works undertaken will determine what other work would be required in the longer term and hopefully the officers would be able to report further with additional information at the next meeting of this Committee. 

     

    In response the Chairman stated that communication is very important to members of this Committee and the public and requested with regard to any developments that the information be forwarded to the Members Support Officer in order that it is disseminated to the members.

     

    A member who serves on the Snowdonia Access Forum was reassured that the Mawddach Trail and which forms part of the coastal path would be kept open.

     

    With regard to the 150th celebration anniversary of the viaduct, it was stated that a separate meeting between Councillor Trevor Roberts and the relevant officers would be held to discuss the matter.

     

    (b) Mr James Widdowson, gave a brief introduction of his role within Network Rail, by stating that he was responsible for the maintenance team which manages vegetation cutting / encroachment, invasive plants, ditches, flooding, etc. 

     

    (b) Congratulations were extended to Network Rail for the work carried out to cutting back the overgrowth between the main road and the railway line in the Aberdyfi area but concern was expressed about the safety of road users due to the inadequate fencing which had been put up between Gogarth Halt and Aberdyfi.  Also it was brought to the officers’ attention that an object most probably had come off a lorry and was lying along the railway line and had been there over the past two weeks.    

     

    (c)    In response to the above, Mr Widdowson stated that Network Rail’s policy is to replace fencing like for like and it may well be that this is the case but that he would speak to the contractor who carried out the work.

     

    (d)        The relevant officers responded to members’ verbal questions as follows:

     

    ·         Mr Widdowson agreed to ask one of his team to have a look at Dyffryn Ardudwy Railway Station Car Park in terms of health and safety which according to the member does need resurfacing and marking out with disabled spaces

    ·         Mr Sam Hadley promised to follow up the bilingual signs on the lifts at Machynlleth Station

    ·         With regard to drainage problems, Ms Sally Biggs stated that Network Rail would be carrying  ...  view the full minutes text for item 5.

    6.

    REPORT BY ARRIVA TRAINS WALES LTD

    To receive a report by Mr Ben Davies, Arriva Trains Wales.

    Minutes:

    The Chairman welcomed Mr Ben Davies, Arriva Trains Wales, to submit his report on Arriva Trains Wales’ activities to date.

     

    It was reported that storm “Doris” had caused problems last week and that Arriva Trains Wales were collaborating with Network Rail with any outstanding issues.

     

    It was further reported that Wi-Fi would be available on all trains before Easter.

     

    Formal written questions had been submitted by Members of this Committee /  Community Councils / and individuals which were addressed as follows:

     

    (i)         Provision of a shelter at Dyfi Junction – Mr Ben Davies stated that funding was available to provide another shelter and that arrangements were in had to proceed with this matter.

     

    (ii)        Why is there no free travel pass for the elderly throughout the year rather than during the winter months only? -  Mr Ben Davies, Arriva Trains, stated that there wouldn’t be sufficient seating capacity to be able to offer this concession during the summer months.  However, the matter had been discussed with the Welsh Government Minister, especially in terms of sufficient rolling stock as part of the new franchise.

     

    (iii)       The Welsh language, bilingual announcements on the trains, better pronunciation of Welsh names on notices in stations -  Whilst agreeing that the Welsh language is very important, Mr Davies stated that the problem was lack of funding and not knowing as yet what is happening to the trains with regard to the new franchise. However, he announced to the Committee that he had been appointed to serve on the Arriva Group in London which is responsible for the franchise bid.  He assured members that he would voice the concerns of the people of North Wales regarding the Welsh language, timetables, etc and would ensure that the language policy is sorted.  

     

    In response to the above, members congratulated Mr Ben Davies on his appointment and supported the need to sort the language policy.  Councillor Trevor Roberts, assured the Committee that the four bidders for the franchise had been made aware of the need for bilingual information on the Welsh lines and stations.

     

    During the ensuing discussion, members made the following comments:

     

    ·         That the Welsh language is very important and that the announcements in the newly installed lift at Machynlleth should be bilingual

    ·         With regard to pronunciation, it was stated that it is far easier for a Welsh speaking person to pronounce the English stations than it is for an English speaking person to pronounce the Welsh names of stations

     

    In response to the above points, Mr Ben Davies stated that the announcements are made via a text to speech system and was not always done by a person.  However, it was further stated that non-speaking staff are given an opportunity to learn the language and are encouraged to speak Welsh.

     

    A member took the opportunity of paying tribute and thanking the following four members who had worked tirelessly during the consultation period of the Wales and Borders Rail Service:

     

    Councillor Trevor Roberts

    Councillor J. Michael Williams 

    Mr  ...  view the full minutes text for item 6.

    7.

    REPORT BY THE CAMBRIAN RAILWAY PARTNERSHIP OFFICER pdf icon PDF 869 KB

    To receive a report by Mr Rhydian Mason, the Cambrian Railway Partnership Officer.

     

    (Copy enclosed)

    Minutes:

    Submitted      -           A written report by Mr Rhydian Mason, the Cambrian Partnership Railway Officer outlining activities undertaken since the previous meeting which included;

     

    (a)          Developments on the promotion of the Orange Wallet Scheme nationally

     

    The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for the Department of Transport, had given his endorsement to promote the Orange Wallet Scheme nationally and in consultation with Arriva Trains Wales and Arriva UK Group, this would be taken forward.

     

    (b)          Rail Franchising and Welsh Government support

     

    Numerous meetings regarding the rail franchise had been attended along with colleagues from the 4 other Wales and Borders Community Rail Partnerships.

     

    (c)          Publications

     

    Reference was made to a new booklet to be published of short walks on the Cambrian Lines which will replace the Cambrian Trailways leaflets.  Walking is very popular and it was hoped that the Tourist Information Centre in both Porthmadog and Barmouth would be re-opened in order to promote activities.

     

    (d)          Surveys

     

    The Cambrian Railways Partnership was commissioning surveys schedules for spring 2017 as part of a grant from Welsh Government.  These surveys follow on from the success of the 2013 and 2015 surveys which resulted in improved services on the Cambrian Lines.

     

    (e)          2017 Promotional Campaign

     

    In terms of promoting, this period had been very important and an additional fund had been secured to prepare a brand new tourist-focussed website and further short films.

     

    (f)   Stories and Books by Cambrian

     

    Confirmation of details and funding availability is awaited to pilot a project of linking stories and books with the Cambrian Lines which would promote trips for school children on the trains.

     

     

    (g)  2017-2018 Business Plan

     

    The business plan was in the process of being prepared and would be submitted to the Partnership at its next meeting.  A copy would be made available to Members of this Committee through the Members’ Support Officer.

     

     

    In response to a question by a member regarding the time-table of the Cambrian Coast in the form of a small card which proved very popular with locals and visitor, Mr Mason stated that these were still produced but found it difficult to distribute them to visitor centres, etc.  Distribution had been focused on Railway Stations but if the Abderdyfi Tourist Centre required further supplies that they contact the Cambrian Railway Partnership Officer. 

     

    It was brought to the Committee’s attention of the “Big Train meets Little Train” publication and the Manager of the Festiniog and Eryri Railways, as Chairperson of the North Wales Tourism would be more than happy to distribute any publications further afield. 

     

    In concluding, Mr Mason stated that he would be resigning from his post within the next few days and had secured a new post with Network Rail, as Railway Crossings Manager covering the area from Barmouth to Pwllheli. He thanked the members for their co-operation and support whilst in his present post.  He understood that the Partnership would be renewing the post and hopefully a successor would be appointed in the near future.

     

    The Chairman, on behalf of the Committee,  ...  view the full minutes text for item 7.

    8.

    REPORT BY THE BRITISH TRANSPORT POLICE

    To receive a report by the British Transport Police.

    Minutes:

    PC Rob Newman, British Transport Police, had sent his apologies for his inability to attend the meeting, but had literally nothing to report, relevant to the Cambrian since it had been a very quiet period since the last meeting in November. 

     

    Resolved:       To receive and note the above. 

    9.

    FORMAL QUESTIONS pdf icon PDF 195 KB

    To receive responses to the questions enclosed herewith received since the previous meeting.

     

    (a)  Appendix 1      – Question from the Chairman

    (b)  Appendix 2      – Question from the Meirionnydd Access Group

    (c)  Appendix 3      – Question from Llanystumdwy Community Council

    (d)  Appendix 4      – Question from Penrhyndeudraeth Town Council

    (e)  Appendix 5      – Question from Pwllheli Town Council

    (f)   Appendix 6      – Question from Criccieth Town Council

    (g)  Appendix 7 (i) – Question from Llangelynnin Community Council

    (h)  Appendix 7 (ii) – Question from Llangelynnin Community Council

    (i)    Appendix 8 (i) – Question from Porthmadog Town Council

    (j)    Appendix 8 (ii) – Correspondence from Mr Hunt, Porthmadog

     

     

    (Copies enclosed)

    Additional documents:

    • Appendix 2 - Question from Mr Delwyn Evans, Meirionnydd Access Group , item 9. pdf icon PDF 130 KB
    • Appendix 3 - Question from Llanystumdwy Community Council , item 9. pdf icon PDF 101 KB
    • Appendix 4 - Question from Penrhyndeudraeth Town Council , item 9. pdf icon PDF 100 KB
    • Appendix 5 - Question from Pwllheli Town Council , item 9. pdf icon PDF 101 KB
    • Appendix 6 - Question from Criccieth Town Council , item 9. pdf icon PDF 195 KB
    • There are a further 4 documents.View the full list of documents for item 9.

    Minutes:

    The formal written questions had been addressed as part of the officers’ reports and noted in 5 and 6 above.

     

     

    Resolved:       To express appreciation for the questions and for the favourable response given by the officers.

     

    10.

    NOTE FOR THE DIARY

    Transport for Wales will soon be launching a public consultation on the Wales and Borders Rail Service including the South Wales Metro. As part of the consultation process they will be hosting a series of half-day, morning workshops to gather views on the new Service. The dates of the events are below, please mark them in your diaries. More details of the events and joining instructions will be sent out once the consultation has been launched.

     

    Dates and venues

     

    20 March          Canolfan Gateway Centre,  Amwythig  / Shrewsbury

    21 March          Venue Cymru, Llandudno

    28 March          Coleg y Cymoedd, Nantgarw

    29 March          Gwesty’r Ivy Bush Hotel, Caerfyrddin / Carmarthen

    3 April               Gwesty’r Marine Hotel, Aberystwyth

     

     

    Minutes:

    The Transport for Wales would be launching public consultation on the Wales and Borders Rail Service including the South Wales Metro and would be hosting half-day, morning workshops to gather views on the new services on the following dates and at the venues noted:

     

    20 March                     Canolfan Gateway Centre, Amwythig / Shrewsbury

    21 March                     Venue Cymru, Llandudno

    28 March                     Coleg y Cymoedd, Nantgarw

    29 March                     Gwesty’r Ivy Bush Hotel, Caerfyrddin / Carmarthen

    3 April                          Gwesty’r Marine Hotel, Aberyswyth

     

     

     

    The Chairman took the opportunity of thanking members for their support and co-operation over the past years during his term of office as Chair of this Committee, as well as wishing members who face an election all the best in the forthcoming local government elections on 4 May 2017.