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    Governance and Audit Committee - Thursday, 10th February, 2022 10.00 am

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    Venue: Cyfarfod Rhithiol / Virtual Meeting. View directions

    Contact: Lowri Haf Evans  01286 679878

    Items
    No. Item

    1.

    DECLARATION OF PERSONAL INTEREST

    To receive any declaration of personal interest.

    Minutes:

    a)       Councillor Gethin Glyn Williams, in relation to item 5, as a member of his family was employed by the Council

     

    The Member was of the opinion that it was a prejudicial interest, and withdrew from the meeting during the discussion on the item.

     

    b)     Councillor W Gareth Roberts in relation to item 5 on the agenda, as a member of his family was employed by the Council

     

    The Member was of the opinion that it was a prejudicial interest and he withdrew from the meeting.

     

    2.

    APOLOGIES

    To receive apologies for absence.

    Minutes:

    Apologies were received from Councillors Aled Ll Evans and Selwyn Griffiths

     

    3.

    URGENT ITEMS

    To note any items which are urgent business in the opinion of the Chairman so they may be considered.

    Minutes:

    None to note

    4.

    MINUTES pdf icon PDF 252 KB

    The Chairman shall propose that the minutes of the meeting of this committee, held on 18th November 2021, be signed as a true record.

    Minutes:

    The Chair signed the minutes of the previous meetings of this committee, held on 18 November 2021 as a true record

    5.

    CABINET DECISION 18/01/2022 ITEM 6 - CELEBRATING ST. DAVID'S DAY pdf icon PDF 378 KB

    A decision has been called in for scrutiny, in accordance with section 7.25 of the Council's Constitution

    Additional documents:

    • Appendix 1 - Cabinet Decision Notice , item 5. pdf icon PDF 259 KB
    • Appendix 2 - Report to Cabinet , item 5. pdf icon PDF 197 KB

    Decision:

    To support the Cabinet's decision 18-01-2022

     

    Minutes:

    The Monitoring Officer highlighted the fact that the Audit and Governance Committee, in its role to scrutinise corporate matters, had the right to call in the Cabinet's decision for review, and to receive further information that was relevant to aspects of that decision.

     

    Councillor Nia Jeffreys (Cabinet Member for Corporate Support) was invited to present the information and explain the background of the decision.

     

    Members were reminded that on 7 October 2021, the Full Council had decided unanimously to ask the Cabinet to consider officially recognising St David’s Day as an official holiday for its workforce.  At the Cabinet meeting held on 18 January 2022, it was decided to designate St David’s Day as an additional holiday for Council staff. It was noted that a request had been received for more details about the cost (approximately £200k) of implementing the decision, and also an observation that the money could be used for another purpose for the benefit of Gwynedd's residents.

     

    The Cabinet Member explained that there was no cost of allowing an additional day's holiday on 1 March 2022 to staff who worked in an office or from home - the day would be added to their annual entitlement. There would be a direct cost in relation to care staff and waste collection staff who would receive an additional day to be taken at a future date.  For these staff, cover costs would need to be paid (an additional cost of approximately £45k (Care) and £30k (Highways and Municipal). It was reported that teaching assistants and school ancillary staff had the right to an additional day, but they had to work within the school terms - and they would receive an amendment to their salaries (a cost of approximately £90k). With Teachers' working conditions decided nationally, they could not be included in the decision.

     

    It was explained that a corporate underspend would be used to pay these costs - money that would normally transfer to reserves, as opposed to money paid from individual services. It would be a one-off payment, with no impact on the 2022/23 budget. The estimated total cost was £200k. The money would not be released to the departments until the expenditure had been made.

     

    The officers were thanked for responding to the decision by taking action and holding discussions with the Unions to ensure that the aspiration was realised. It was emphasised that the Cabinet had responded in good will to the Full Council's unanimous decision.

     

    During the ensuing discussion, the following observations were made by members:

    ·         Supported celebrating St David's Day, but it should be made a day's national holiday for everybody.

    ·         The public response had been fairly negative

    ·         The timing of the decision caused concern - in a period of tax and living cost increases, from where had the money come?

    ·         Agree with the concept, but it was  ...  view the full minutes text for item 5.

    6.

    REVENUE BUDGET 2021/22 – END OF NOVEMBER 2021 REVIEW pdf icon PDF 110 KB

    To consider the report and the risks arising from the forecast expenditure against the budget, and scrutinise the Cabinet’s decisions regarding budget management by the Council and its departments.

    Additional documents:

    • Revenue Budget 2021.22 End of November Review - Cabinet Report , item 6. pdf icon PDF 72 KB
    • Appendix 1 , item 6. pdf icon PDF 4 KB
    • Appendix 2 , item 6. pdf icon PDF 85 KB
    • Appendix 3 , item 6. pdf icon PDF 4 KB

    Decision:

    ·         To accept the report and note the relevant risks in the context of the budgets of the Council and its Departments.

    ·         To accept the Cabinet's decision 18/01/2022

     

    Minutes:

    A report was presented by the Senior Finance Manager, detailing the latest review of the Council's revenue budget for 2021/22, and the projections for the end of the financial year.

     

    It was noted that the financial impact of Covid-19 had been substantial for the Council - a combination of additional costs, loss of income (to the value of over £20 million in 2020/21 and £10 million this year to date). It was added that applications for compensation from Welsh Government's Hardship Fund were being submitted on a monthly basis.

     

    Despite creating an amended programme of savings for 2021/22 by cancelling, slipping and re-profiling savings schemes in January 2021, it was explained that there remained a delay in implementing savings in some fields, with delays as a result of the crisis an evident factor. Attention was drawn to a summary of the final position of all departments and further details of the main matters where there had been significant differences, and recommendations.

     

    ·         Adults, Health and Well-being Department - an overspend of almost £1 million was forecast this year (£995k), with a failure to realise savings worth £855k being an obvious factor of the overspend. The main overspend fields - older people, learning disabilities and community care services with the impact of Covid remaining to have a significant impact on the Department. Again this year, a value of over £3 million had been claimed from the Welsh Government for the additional costs for the period. Bids to the value of over £1.6 million had been approved for the increasing pressure on the 2021/22 budget at the beginning of the financial year.

    ·         Children and Families Department - £1.8 million in additional funding had been allocated to the Children and Families department in the 2021/22 funding cycle in order to meet the increasing pressure, as well as cancelling savings schemes to the value of £1.1 million that had not been achieved. Subsequently, the current financial projections were very promising. 

    ·         Highways and Municipal Department – overspend problems in the field of waste collection and disposal continued, and difficulties in realising financial savings in a number of fields (to the value of £666k). The department had also faced additional costs relating to Covid, but was confident that the Welsh Government would continue to compensate for the rest of the year.

    ·         Corporate - prudent projections when setting the 2021/22 budget were responsible for additional tax yields and contributed to the underspend on Council Tax Reductions - the pressures on a number of budgets were not as severe as had been anticipated this year.

     

    It was added that the Council's financial position was balanced as a result of an underspend on Corporate budgets and underspends by the majority of departments.

     

    Thanks were expressed for the report.

     

    During the ensuing discussion, the following observations were made by members:

    ·         The Head of Highways and Municipal had appeared before the Controls Improvement Working Group to discuss  ...  view the full minutes text for item 6.

    7.

    CAPITAL PROGRAMME 2021/22 –END OF NOVEMBER 2021 REVIEW pdf icon PDF 109 KB

    To consider the information and the risks regarding the Capital Programme, and scrutinise the Cabinet’s decisions

    Additional documents:

    • Capital Programme End of November Review 21-22 - Cabinet Report , item 7. pdf icon PDF 221 KB

    Decision:

    ·         To accept the report and note the relevant risks in the context of the capital programme of the Council and its Departments.

    ·         To accept the Cabinet's decision 18/01/2022

     

    Minutes:

    A report was presented by the Senior Finance Manager on the amended capital programme (position as at end of November 2021) and approval of relevant funding sources. Attention was drawn to the impact of the Covid-19 crisis on the capital programme, and it was highlighted that only 37% of the budget had been spent up to the end of November 2021, compared with 31% over the same period last year and 51% two years ago (2019/20 before the interruption of Covid19). It was added that an analysis per Department of the £127.7 million capital programme for the 3 years 2020/21 - 2023/24 had been included in the report.

     

    Reference was made to the sources to fund the net increase of approximately £3.7 million since the last review, and it was added that the main conclusions were that the Council had specific plans in place to invest approximately £52.1 million this year, with £27.4 million of it, namely 53%, funded by attracting specific grants.

     

    It was explained that £22.1 million in proposed spending had been re-profiled from 2021/22 to 2022/23 and 2023/24, with the main plans including

    ·         £6.2 million in Housing Strategy Plans

    ·         £5.8 million in Flood Prevention Schemes

    ·         £5.4 million in 21st Century Schools Plans and Others (21st century).

     

    Attention was drawn to the main plans, as well as the additional grants list that the Council had succeeded in attracting since the last review, including:

    ·         £2.3 million School Maintenance Grant

    ·         £1.4 million Welsh Government Grant towards Flood Prevention

    ·         £0.4 million Economic Stimulation Fund Grant

    ·         £0.3 million Ysgol Treferthyr Childcare Grant.

     

    At the meeting of the Cabinet (18 January 2022), it was resolved to accept the report and approve all the recommendations.

     

                   Thanks were expressed for the report

     

    During the ensuing discussion, the following observations were made by members:

    ·         The report reflected good news

    ·         The staff who found and succeeded in attracting additional funding should be congratulated - it was a significant sum and was an investment in the Council's capabilities.

     

    In response to a question regarding 2022/23 schemes that had been re-profiled since the original budget (and that the figure was the same from year to year), and whether the implications of increasing costs / prices had been built into the likely plan or slippage, it was noted that inflation was at its highest for many years and therefore, while there was a specific sum in the budget for capital items, there were limitations on how far the funding would stretch. Reference was made to a discussion in the Cabinet in October 2021 on the end of August capital budget review where the Chief Executive noted that an intentional decision had been made to try to slip some capital schemes, in order to wait for the prices of some commodities, such as timber, to stabilise. It was added that a reflection of these slippages had been included in the figures.

     

    RESOLVED

     

    ·         To accept the report and note the relevant risks in the context of the capital programme of the Council  ...  view the full minutes text for item 7.

    8.

    SAVINGS OVERVIEW - PROGRESS REPORT ON REALISING SAVINGS SCHEMES pdf icon PDF 109 KB

    To receive the information, consider the general risks arising from slippages, and scrutinise the Cabinet’s decisions regarding the savings position

    Additional documents:

    • Savings Overview - Cabinet Report , item 8. pdf icon PDF 423 KB
    • Savings - Appendix 1 (15-16 to 20-21) , item 8. pdf icon PDF 700 KB
    • Savings - Appendix 2 (21-22) , item 8. pdf icon PDF 694 KB
    • Savings - Appendix 3 (22-23) , item 8. pdf icon PDF 505 KB

    Decision:

    ·         To accept the report and note the relevant risks in the context of the savings overview. 

    ·         To accept the Cabinet's decision 18/01/2022

     

    Minutes:

    Mr Dewi Morgan was welcomed to the meeting in his new role as Head of the Finance Department.

     

    The report was presented by the Cabinet Member for Finance and it was noted that since 2015/16, as part of the Council's financial strategy, savings to the value of £35m had been approved to be realised during the 2015/16 - 2021/22 period. It was reported, in referring to the savings schemes for the period from the 2015/16 financial year to the 2020/21 financial year, where it appeared that 96%, namely over £32 million of the £34 million savings, had been realised. The main schemes that were yet to be achieved were schemes in the Adults, Health and Well-being Department and the Highways and Municipal Department.

     

    The Head of Finance added that as the Council's Departments had focused on the response to the crisis since April 2020, the impact of Covid-19 had contributed to a slippage in the savings programme, as the Council had given utmost priority to safeguarding the health and lives of the people of Gwynedd.

     

    It was reported that 45% of 2021/22 savings, namely the current financial year, had been achieved, with a value of £436k out of a total of £967k. It was added that the departments with the highest value of schemes that were yet to be achieved were the Highways and Municipal Department and the Adults, Health and Well-being Department.

     

    It was acknowledged that realising savings to the value of £32.8 million (out of a total of £35 million) since April 2015 had been challenging, and although there were £1m of delayed savings schemes now moving onwards, it was considered that there were some risks in relation to realising schemes worth £0.8 million.

     

    In the context of the savings schemes for 2022/23, it was reported that a recent review of the savings schemes scheduled for 2022/23 had been conducted by the Chief Executive, Corporate Director and Finance Officers. It was highlighted that it must be acknowledged that the situation had now changed so much that two savings schemes to the value of £489,750 - the 'End to End' review with a value of £279,750 in the Children and Supporting Families Department, and the 'Transfer of Playing Fields to others' in the Highways and Municipal Department could not be delivered. At the Cabinet's meeting on 18 January 2022, it was decided to abolish these two schemes from the budget and re-profile some savings schemes (worth £1,290,250) to 2023/24 and subsequent years.  It was noted that the savings value of the remaining schemes to be deducted from the 2022/23 budget was £595,000.

     

    Thanks were expressed for the report.

     

                    DECISION:

     

    ·         To accept the report and note the relevant risks in the context of the savings overview. 

    ·         To accept the Cabinet's decision 18/01/2022

     

    9.

    OUTPUT OF THE INTERNAL AUDIT SECTION pdf icon PDF 464 KB

    To consider the report, comment on the contents and support the actions that have already been agreed with the relevant services

    Decision:

    ·         To accept the report

    ·         To support the actions that have already been agreed with the relevant services

     

    Minutes:

    The Audit Manager presented a report updating the Committee on the internal audit work for the period from 1 February 2021 to 30 January 2022. It was highlighted that 7 audits from the operational plan had been completed, in addition to one grant audit.

     

    Reference was made to every audit in turn - there were no matters arising

     

    Thanks were expressed for the report.

     

    RESOLVED

     

    ·         To accept the report

    ·         To support the actions that have already been agreed with the relevant services

     

    10.

    INTERNAL AUDIT PLAN 2021/22 pdf icon PDF 444 KB

    To update the Committee on progress against the 2021/22 Audit Plan

     

    Decision:

    ·         To accept the report, noting the progress made against the Audit Plan 2021/22

     

    Minutes:

    Submitted, for information, a report of the Audit Manager updating the Committee on the current situation in terms of completing the Internal Audit Plan 2021/22.  Reference was made to the status of the work and the time spent on each audit. It was highlighted, as at the end of January 2022, that 45.24%, or 19 out of the 42 individual audits in the plan, had been released in a final version.

     

    It was reported that 14 audits had been cancelled, due to staff from the unit being redirected to assist with the Track, Trace and Protect service and to assist the Benefits service to deal with Winter Fuel Assistance Scheme and Self-isolation Support Payments.

     

    It was noted that it was intended to submit the Audit Plan 2022/23 to the next committee meeting

     

    Thanks were expressed for the report

     

    RESOLVED:

     

    ·         To accept the report, noting the progress made against the Audit Plan 2021/22

     

    11.

    2022/23 BUDGET pdf icon PDF 112 KB

    To submit the budget which the Cabinet intends to recommend to the Council for scrutiny by the Audit and Governance Committee

    Additional documents:

    • Budget 2022/23 - Cabinet (draft) Report , item 11. pdf icon PDF 252 KB
    • Appendix 1 , item 11. pdf icon PDF 149 KB
    • Appendix 2 , item 11. pdf icon PDF 80 KB
    • Appendix 2a , item 11. pdf icon PDF 93 KB
    • Appendix 2b , item 11. pdf icon PDF 58 KB
    • There are a further 9 documents.View the full list of documents for item 11.

    Decision:

    ·         To accept the report and to note the content

    ·         To accept the financial propriety of the proposals and the relevant risks

    ·         To present observations from the discussion on the options for the Cabinet to consider when discussing the 2022/23 Budget at its meeting on 15/2/22

     

    Minutes:

    A report was presented by the Cabinet Member for finance, noting that the Council had received a grant increase of 8.8%, equivalent to an £18.1m increase in external funding (9.4% was the average for Wales) for 2022/23, a significant improvement on previous years.  Despite this year's reasonable settlement, it was reported that there were a number of factors that would create additional spending pressures on Council services in 2022/23.  In addition to the highest inflation rates for a number of years, there was an opportunity to deal with wider expenditure pressures, including addressing continued costs stemming from the Covid-19 crisis, and cancelling or delaying savings schemes that were not practicable to realise in 2022/23.

     

    At its meeting on 15/02/22, the Cabinet would be requested to recommend to the Full Council on 3/03/22 to establish a budget of £295.2m for 2022/23, to be funded by £213.2 of Government Grant, and £82m of Council Tax income (with an increase of 2.95%) and to establish a capital programme of £59m in 2022/23.

     

    It was explained that Additional Expenditure Requirements had been considered in the budget (totalling £20.2m), and attention was drawn to four headings of increases.

    ·         Salary Inflation of £8.5m – the budget set aside an estimated increase of 4% in the 2022/23 pay agreement for the whole workforce and an increase of 1.25% in National Insurance contributions that would become effective in April 2022.

    ·         Other Inflation of £4m - A sum that included provision for the impact of the 'living wage' on costs and fees payable to private suppliers together with inflationary increases on fuel and energy budgets and prices following re-tendering.

    ·         Pressure on Services of £6.7m - it was recommended that bids worth £6.7m for additional permanent resources submitted by Council departments to meet inevitable pressures on their services were approved.  In addition to the permanent bids, it was also recommended that 'one-off' bids worth £6.2m should be funded from the Transformation Fund. It was noted that the submitted bids had been thoroughly challenged by the Leadership Team, prior to their recommendation by the Cabinet.

    ·         Covid-19 pressures of £1.4m.  Since April 2020, the Welsh Government had compensated local authorities for the additional costs and loss of income due to the pandemic from the Hardship Fund (the total assistance from the Government in 2020/21 was approximately £20m, and approximately £14.4m during 2021/22). However, the Welsh Government Finance Minister had stated unequivocally that this support would cease on 31 March 2022 and local authorities would be expected to fund any additional costs or loss of income due to the pandemic thereafter. It was noted, although £1.4m had been provided to establish a corporate fund in order to cope with the situation, the Head of Finance did not anticipate that it would be sufficient in itself to deal with the pressures, although he highlighted that other funds were available to assist.  It was added that a Covid Recovery Fund had been established when the 2020/21 accounts were closed, and the Financial Strategy Reserve could  ...  view the full minutes text for item 11.

    12.

    CAPITAL STRATEGY 2022/23 (INCLUDES INVESTMENT AND BORROWING STRATEGIES) pdf icon PDF 401 KB

    To receive the information, consider any risks arising from the strategy before it is presented to the full Council for adoption.

    Additional documents:

    • Appendix A - Capital Programme 2022-23 , item 12. pdf icon PDF 160 KB
    • Appendix B MRP Statement 2022-23 , item 12. pdf icon PDF 257 KB
    • Appendix C- Treasury Management Strategy Statement 2022-23 , item 12. pdf icon PDF 552 KB

    Decision:

    ·         To accept the report and to note the information and relevant risks

    ·         To support the Cabinet Member for Finance's intention to submit the Strategy to the Full Council for approval

     

    Minutes:

    The Investment Manager presented a report, providing an overview of the Council's Capital activities and treasury management. Members were reminded that they had received a presentation by Arlingclose, the financial consultants, explaining the detail behind the strategy in an understandable and comprehensive manner. Reference was made to the capital activities and attention was drawn to the fact that the Council intended to make capital spending of £64.1 million in 22/23, with the main schemes listed in the report, along with the funding sources. It was noted that the external resources were mainly from Welsh Government and the funds were our own resources.  The remainder of the funding came from loans that would be repaid over a number of years, normally from revenue resources or from income from the sale of assets, which was consistent with the actions of previous years. This meant that the indicator - Council's Capital Funding Requirement, would be £176.6 million by the end of the 22/23 financial year, namely the level that the Council's long-term borrowing should remain below.

     

    In the context of the Borrowing Strategy, it was recently highlighted that there had been no long-term borrowing strategy, only a short-term, low-cost requirement over the end of the financial year. It was reiterated that this would continue, with only long-term borrowing being anticipated for Gwynedd Council activities, and that the Council's debt remained under the Capital Funding Requirement.

     

    Reference was made to one change to the liability benchmark, namely the introduction of the impact of the North Wales Economic Ambition Board's borrowing, and the need for future borrowing. It was noted that it was likely that the Joint Committee would move to the Corporate Joint Committee before any borrowing would be necessary. Consequently, the Council would expect its borrowings to be higher than its liability benchmark as the Council had a higher level of reserves. 

     

    In the context of the investment strategy, the Council's policy was to prioritise security and liquidity over yield to ensure that money was available to pay for Council services. It was noted that £10m was being kept to ensure continuous liquidity and considering the uncertain period and current low returns, it was considered that retaining liquidity and security was a priority.

     

    Reference was made to the risk management and governance, and the details of the long-term commitments of the Council e.g. to redress the deficit in the Pension Fund, and the impact of the funding costs on cash flow. It was also confirmed that officers had the relevant knowledge and skills, and that Arlingclose would continue to provide a financial advisory service to the Council for the coming years.

     

    Thanks were expressed for the report

     

    RESOLVED:

     

    ·         To accept the report and to note the information and relevant risks

    ·         To support the Cabinet Member for Finance's intention to submit the Strategy to the Full Council for approval

     

    13.

    WORKING FOR THE FUTURE AND THE MENTAL WELLBEING SUPPORT pdf icon PDF 250 KB

    To provide an overview of the plans for working in the future and identify the support offered to staff in relation to mental well-being. The Audit and Governance committee are invited to consider the information presented

    Decision:

    ·         To accept the report and to note the plans for working for the future and note the support offered to staff in relation to mental well-being.

     

    Minutes:

    The Head of Corporate Support Department presented a report in response to the request of committee members for information on the Council’s plan in relation to future working arrangements and also the provision for supporting staff mental wellbeing.  It was reported that the vision for working in the future would be presented formally to a meeting of the Cabinet on 15 February 2022.

     

    It was reported that regular meetings were held to discuss well-being matters, working arrangements and to construct new methods of service provision. Reference was made to the main drivers for adopting new working arrangements for the future, and some of the principles that were the foundations for flexible working arrangements. It was emphasised that, where the circumstances of the post allowed, any flexible working arrangement would be voluntary for staff. It was highlighted that staff were encouraged to discuss their situation regularly with their line managers, with staff well-being at the centre of the new arrangements. Consultation had taken place with staff, and in response to the vision of future working, it was noted that offices were being adapted to facilitate the new working arrangements, a number of working conditions and employment policies were being reviewed, and a training programme would be provided that would include leadership skills and holding hybrid teams.

    It was noted that the vision aligned with Welsh Government's commitment to develop a remote working strategy, with the aim of enabling 30% of the Welsh workforce to work close to or from their homes. It was added that the support provided for the health and wellbeing of staff by the Council had been recognised by Welsh Government as “Gold Level” Corporate Health Standard.

     

    The members expressed their thanks for the report.

     

    During the ensuing discussion, the following observations were made by members:

    ·         The workforce had been forced to cope with the costs of heating, electricity and telephones over the period of the pandemic - a need to consider the impact of the income tax contributions in future.

    ·         There would be a new Council in May - the importance of face-to-face contact and joint discussions

    ·         In the context of staff well-being, it was difficult to identify problems when working from home

    ·         Supported the vision and the emphasis on flexibility

    ·         Anticipated that there would be opportunities for workers from the south of the county to apply for 'central' jobs

    ·         Need to ensure that an element of team working was maintained

    ·         A request to ensure that apprentices were given suitable opportunities to develop their characters and to collaborate within a team

     

    In response to an observation that significant work would be required to make the offices secure, it was noted that the Housing and Property Department were leading the work, but they had only begun to identify the needs and the shape of the offices.  It was noted that one office had  ...  view the full minutes text for item 13.

    14.

    AUDIT WALES REPORTS pdf icon PDF 212 KB

    To provide the Committee with an update on the Audit Wales work programme for Quarter 3 and reports published recently

    Additional documents:

    • Appendix 1 Gwynedd Audit Wales Q3 2021 Work Update , item 14. pdf icon PDF 182 KB
    • Appendix 2i NWC BCUHB Older People Care Home Placements , item 14. pdf icon PDF 1 MB
    • Appendix 2ii Care Home Commissioning for Older People - National Report , item 14. pdf icon PDF 878 KB
    • Appendix 3 Review of Performance Management Gwynedd Council , item 14. pdf icon PDF 802 KB
    • Appendix 4 Gwynedd Council Annual Audit Summary , item 14. pdf icon PDF 224 KB

    Decision:

    ·         To accept the reports.

     

    Minutes:

    Four reports had been submitted by Audit Wales updating the Committee on the Audit Wales work programme for Quarter 3 and reports published recently.

     

    Jeremy Evans (Wales Audit) was welcomed to present the reports.

     

    1.   Quarterly Update - Quarter 3 (up to 31 December 2021)

     

    The quarterly report was now part of the Committee's arrangements for receiving information about the work undertaken locally, regionally and nationally.

     

    The information was accepted.

     

    2.   Commissioning Placements in Care Homes for Older People

     

    It was noted that the report noted the findings of the Auditor General's review of arrangements for commissioning placements in care homes across North Wales. The work was part of the statutory programme of local audit work in each of the local authorities in North Wales and Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board. The findings were presented, and also recommendations for strengthening the method of commissioning placements in care homes and associated arrangements for working in partnership across North Wales.

     

    On the whole, it was found that partners were working individually and jointly to provide suitable placements, but were also carrying significant risks. One of the highlighted risks was the structure of the Regional Partnership Board (RPB) - although it brought partners together to ‘think regionally’, its structures, largely set out by the Welsh Government, were extensive and complex, and lines of accountability needed to be strengthened.

     

    In response, an observation was made that the report highlighted the weakness of the Cardiff Government's policy that forced regional working, creating a structure that prevented the Council from working effectively. Reference was made to work by the council, in collaboration with Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board, to establish a new domiciliary care model in Gwynedd that would assist people to live their lives as fully as possible within their communities. The new model would improve the way that domiciliary care was organised and provided in Gwynedd, by keeping the arrangements as local as possible. Should these arrangements be adopted across North Wales?

     

    In response to a question regarding how the North Wales Strategy for Commissioning Placements could be scrutinised, and whether it was the responsibility of the Audit and Governance Committee within each individual council or more widely, it was noted that a robust structure and clear accountability was needed - it was suggested that the structure of the Economic Ambition Board or other good examples could be examined and recommended to the RPB.

     

    Morwena Edwards (Corporate Director) expressed thanks for the report and noted that this field was not easy to analyse, with a number of discussions having been held about implementing Welsh Government policy. She highlighted the importance of providing nursing and residential places as locally as possible, so that family and friends were supportive of the provision, while accepting the need to collaborate regionally to provide specialist care. It was added that this was not one solution by one region. It would be necessary to work with neighbouring councils e.g. Ceredigion, Conwy and Anglesey to ensure good quality  ...  view the full minutes text for item 14.